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From "Steve Loughran" <>
Subject Re: Ant for J#?
Date Sat, 05 Jan 2002 04:45:47 GMT
I'll start with a personal stance
  c# is the best language for win32 dev right now; J# is a wierd little
thingy as it has hacks to get it to interop and both MS and Sun implicitly
hate the beast. MS, because they hate java, Sun because it aint real java.

With that out the way

1. J#'s runtime is a clean room implementation of java packages without the
ability to dynamically load .class files. The lawsuit prevents MS from using
the sun tests to verify the implementation works; I would not be surprised
to find many corner cases. RMI? Serialisation? Who knows.

2. Its only java1.1

3. I dont see why you couldnt write a j# compiler to go alongside the C# one
in the optional library, which also calls out to the executables; the C#
task should act as a good codebase for this.

4. The <csharp> task doesnt do dependency checking (someone needs to add
this), and I am not sure that anyone uses it on large projects.

5. There is a 'nant' project on sourceforge which does an 'ant for .net'.
Have a look at this first,

Another interesting question is "could you run ant on j#", for which I think
the answer is "maybe, but taskdef is out"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" <>
To: "Ant Users List" <>
Cc: <>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 15:09
Subject: Re: Ant for J#?

> > From: "DONNIE HALE" <>
> >
> > A question I've been wondering about this is which library API will J#
> use -
> > the one from the MS CLR, or one that precisely matches the Java library
> API?
> > It'll be useless to try to have an implementation which only matches the
> language
> > syntax but which requires completely different library calls.
> Out of the box, you can import all the 1.1.x libraries, and/or you
> can import the .NET libraries (typically "import").
> You can then grab source for the 1.3+ libraries and compile them
> and then your 1.3+ programs will work. Although so far the process
> of compiling 1.3+ libraries is not trivial because the J# tools are
> seriously sub-beta quality.
> - Joe
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