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From "Chappell, Simon P" <>
Subject RE: Research question
Date Mon, 01 Apr 2002 19:18:08 GMT
We already use JBuilder and I have AntRunner working just fine. My issue is not against the
IDE's, they do seem to give most of our developers productivity benefits, but I want to have
a separate build tool for those times when you can't use an IDE: integration builds, over
night builds etc. My 110% preference is for ant, but I'm trying to at least show that there
were other tools to pick from and that ant wasn't a complete shoo-in.


Simon P. Chappell           
Java Programming Specialist            
Lands' End, Inc.                                   (608) 935-4526

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Loughran []
>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:18 PM
>To: Ant Users List
>Subject: Re: Research question
>make, that java port of make and IDEs. IDEs are the 
>alternative you will
>probably have to deal with the most, "why use a command line 
>tool, when my
>IDE does everything"? You can address that by showing how most 
>modern IDEs
>(all but jbuilder) host ant, giving developers a choice of IDEs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chappell, Simon P" <>
>To: "Ant User mailing list (E-mail)" <>
>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:39 AM
>Subject: Research question
>I'm writing a proposal for using ant internally as part of our standard
>build process and I am having difficulty finding information on the
>alternatives to ant. I have tried many different searches on the mighty
>Google, but with less than wonderful success. The few that I 
>found seem to
>mostly have withered and died and a few even suggest switching 
>to ant! :-)
>Can folks on this list point me at a few other tools that I 
>can list in my
>document. Specifically, I am looking for build tools that are 
>designed for
>Java systems (hence "make" doesn't make the cut).
>Simon P. Chappell           
>Java Programming Specialist            
>Lands' End, Inc.                                   (608) 935-4526
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