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From Carsten Ziegeler <cziege...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Running Subsystems without Blueprint?
Date Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:11:11 GMT
Hi John,

yes, exactly that's what I'm thinking of - sorry for not being clear.

Regards
Carsten


2014/1/20 John W Ross <jwross@us.ibm.com>

>
> Hi Carsten,
>
> I'm not sure what you're suggesting. My understanding was you wanted to do
> some stuff to remove the dependency on Aries Blueprint. My response was
> that this should have already been done by the referenced defect. Removing
> Aries Blueprint, however it's done, will result in the loss of service
> dependency validation. The only way around that in the pre-R6
> implementation would be to provide a non-aries-blueprint-based
> implementation of the ModelledResourceManager. Is that the work you're
> volunteering to do?
>
> John
>
> >
> > Re: Running Subsystems without Blueprint?
> >
> > Thanks for the pointer John, I didn't know that (was only using released
> > stuff).
> >
> > However :) it seems that without Blueprint the features are rather
> limited
> > and of course everyone wants all features - so I think this still makes
> > sense. Or are there any downsides especially given the fact that someone
> (=
> > me) is volunteering to do the work?
> >
> > Regards
> > Carsten
> >
> >
> > 2014/1/17 John W Ross <jwross@us.ibm.com>
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The dependency has already been broken in trunk [1]. Is that not
> > > sufficient? Also, beware the service dependency limitations this
> introduces
> > > as discussed in the referenced defect. These will, of course, be
> mitigated
> > > somewhat in OSGi RFC 201 for R6 with support for the osgi.service
> namespace
> > > in Require/Provide-Capability.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARIES-952?
> >
>
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>
> > tabpanel#comment-13703354
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Running Subsystems without Blueprint?
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > we would like to run the subsystems implementation without Blueprint.
> > > It's
> > > > not a matter whether Blueprint is good or not and I don't want to
> start a
> > > > thread about that :). The main reason are a) we want to have
> Subsystems
> > > > running as soon as possible and with as less dependencies as possible
> b)
> > > we
> > > > can't ship Blueprint with our products (and again this decision is
> not
> > > > caused by technical reasons)
> > > >
> > > > Now if I look correctly, the only bundles requiring Blueprint are the
> > > > application.utils and application.modeller. Naive looking it should
> be
> > > > straight forward to migrate these to use an Activator and register
> the
> > > > services by hand.
> > > >
> > > > My question is now, if I would provide the patches, is there interest
> in
> > > > applying them?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Carsten
> > > > --
> > > > Carsten Ziegeler
> > > > cziegeler@apache.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carsten Ziegeler
> > cziegeler@apache.org
>



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Carsten Ziegeler
cziegeler@apache.org

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