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From Mike Carey <dtab...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: users and dev lists
Date Sun, 03 May 2015 21:44:31 GMT
I could do it as well.  (Does it just entail saying "this note may 
indeed pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?)

Cheers,
Mike

On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote:
> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m volunteering to be another
moderator.
>
> Are there other volunteers?
>
>> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than fewer.
>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be
>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very low.
>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I think,
>> than the load on a number of moderators.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this.
>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the list.
>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists.
>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate as well?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Till
>>>
>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Till
>>>>
>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Till
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact outside
>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors + initial
>>> committer) are those who get to decide.
>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take
>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is accepted, if
>>> nobody objects within 72 hours.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we close
in on a
>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize there are
>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are decidedly
>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for them"
>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume).  Is there a
>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to
>>> decide?  (This will be our first case-study in a post-joining-incubation
>>> decision. :-))
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently
have one and
>>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions are at a user-level.
>>>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list,
so developers
>>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the other way around.
>>>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list
would work
>>> better.
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers?
>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications, like Jira
issues,
>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jochen


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