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From Mike Carey <>
Subject Re: Where to place meeting notes?
Date Sun, 17 May 2015 17:28:40 GMT
Agreed!  We don't want to dismantle our university project meetings - 
but - we also do want to share what happens in that context with the 
whole community.  No decisions will be made in those meetings - the dev 
list will always be used to discuss stuff and to get consensus/decisions 
made - but they do serve a useful purpose to keep progress being made 
and accountability for those whose "day job" it is to be contributing on 
a weekly basis. This would be like if Hortonworks or Cloudera published 
notes from their internal meetings and shared them with the rest of the 
Hadoop community - so it's actually intended as added openness rather 
than closed-ness or inner circle-ness.  (We could decide to just not 
share the notes, which is what probably goes on elsewhere - but we 
thought it might be nice to be all the more open.)  Make sense?

On 5/17/15 3:21 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> The question is not, whether there is something "useful" (for whom)?
> It is generally recommended to avoid inner circles, and the like, and
> have as much transparency as possible. That avoids that others are
> getting the feeling to be outsiders.
> Jochen
> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Chris Hillery <> wrote:
>> I don't think you're going to get a lot of useful real-time discussion
>> about things via IRC. At that point, we may as well just send status in
>> email - which I'm not necessarily opposed to, but that does seem like a
>> fairly significant shift in group culture.
>> Ceej
>> aka Chris Hillery
>> On May 16, 2015 11:06 PM, "Mike Carey" <> wrote:
>>> That sounds like an interesting possibility....!
>>> On 5/15/15 11:01 PM, Henry Saputra wrote:
>>>> We could what Apache Aurora did. Using IRC to do the meeting and allow
>>>> ASF IRC bot [1] to record and send to dev@ list.
>>>> [1]
>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Ian Maxon <> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Most of us attend a weekly "AsterixDB" meeting, either via Skype or
>>>>> in-person. However the focus of this meeting is two fold. One part of
>>>>> is
>>>>> regarding the development of AsterixDB, and the other part is about the
>>>>> research efforts that many of us are undertaking, that may not
>>>>> necessarily
>>>>> be directly relevant to AsterixDB itself.
>>>>> Because of that, the minutes from these weekly meetings often contain
>>>>> things that would be of interest to all committers and folks otherwise
>>>>> interested in AsterixDB, but they also contain things that are unrelated.
>>>>> So on one hand it seems natural to post the minutes to this development
>>>>> list, I think there is still uncertainty about whether or not simply
>>>>> doing
>>>>> that is the right thing.
>>>>> Have other Apache projects dealt with this situation? i.e. what to do
>>>>> when
>>>>> meetings contain information and decisions relevant to the project, but
>>>>> also address other non-Apache concerns? Any/all guidance and input would
>>>>> be
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> - Ian

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