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From "Till Westmann" <>
Subject Re: Where to place meeting notes?
Date Wed, 20 May 2015 05:58:54 GMT
To me it seems that the meetings are mostly UC related and - as the 
research that's being discussed is usually implemented in and around 
AsterixDB - somewhat relevant for the (hopefully larger) AsterixDB 

I think that an approach could be to remove the person-specific 
information from the notes and just summarize briefly the 
AsterixDB-relevant topics that were discussed.
Such a summary could then be posted to this list, making everybody aware 
of the topics that were discussed and thus giving an opportunity to 
follow-up on the list.


On 17 May 2015, at 10:28, Mike Carey wrote:

> Agreed!  We don't want to dismantle our university project meetings - 
> but - we also do want to share what happens in that context with the 
> whole community.  No decisions will be made in those meetings - the 
> dev list will always be used to discuss stuff and to get 
> consensus/decisions made - but they do serve a useful purpose to keep 
> progress being made and accountability for those whose "day job" it is 
> to be contributing on a weekly basis. This would be like if 
> Hortonworks or Cloudera published notes from their internal meetings 
> and shared them with the rest of the Hadoop community - so it's 
> actually intended as added openness rather than closed-ness or inner 
> circle-ness.  (We could decide to just not share the notes, which is 
> what probably goes on elsewhere - but we thought it might be nice to 
> be all the more open.)  Make sense?
> On 5/17/15 3:21 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>> The question is not, whether there is something "useful" (for whom)?
>> It is generally recommended to avoid inner circles, and the like, and
>> have as much transparency as possible. That avoids that others are
>> getting the feeling to be outsiders.
>> Jochen
>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Chris Hillery 
>> <> wrote:
>>> I don't think you're going to get a lot of useful real-time 
>>> discussion
>>> about things via IRC. At that point, we may as well just send status 
>>> in
>>> email - which I'm not necessarily opposed to, but that does seem 
>>> like a
>>> fairly significant shift in group culture.
>>> Ceej
>>> aka Chris Hillery
>>> On May 16, 2015 11:06 PM, "Mike Carey" <> wrote:
>>>> That sounds like an interesting possibility....!
>>>> On 5/15/15 11:01 PM, Henry Saputra wrote:
>>>>> We could what Apache Aurora did. Using IRC to do the meeting and 
>>>>> allow
>>>>> ASF IRC bot [1] to record and send to dev@ list.
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Ian Maxon <> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Most of us attend a weekly "AsterixDB" meeting, either via Skype

>>>>>> or
>>>>>> in-person. However the focus of this meeting is two fold. One 
>>>>>> part of it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> regarding the development of AsterixDB, and the other part is 
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> research efforts that many of us are undertaking, that may not
>>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>> be directly relevant to AsterixDB itself.
>>>>>> Because of that, the minutes from these weekly meetings often 
>>>>>> contain
>>>>>> things that would be of interest to all committers and folks 
>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>> interested in AsterixDB, but they also contain things that are 
>>>>>> unrelated.
>>>>>> So on one hand it seems natural to post the minutes to this 
>>>>>> development
>>>>>> list, I think there is still uncertainty about whether or not 
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> that is the right thing.
>>>>>> Have other Apache projects dealt with this situation? i.e. what 
>>>>>> to do
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> meetings contain information and decisions relevant to the 
>>>>>> project, but
>>>>>> also address other non-Apache concerns? Any/all guidance and 
>>>>>> input would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> - Ian

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