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From Mike Carey <dtab...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Where to place meeting notes?
Date Wed, 20 May 2015 06:52:16 GMT
+1
On May 19, 2015 10:59 PM, "Till Westmann" <tillw@apache.org> wrote:

> To me it seems that the meetings are mostly UC related and - as the
> research that's being discussed is usually implemented in and around
> AsterixDB - somewhat relevant for the (hopefully larger) AsterixDB
> community.
>
> I think that an approach could be to remove the person-specific
> information from the notes and just summarize briefly the
> AsterixDB-relevant topics that were discussed.
> Such a summary could then be posted to this list, making everybody aware
> of the topics that were discussed and thus giving an opportunity to
> follow-up on the list.
>
> Cheers,
> Till
>
> On 17 May 2015, at 10:28, Mike Carey wrote:
>
>  Agreed!  We don't want to dismantle our university project meetings - but
>> - we also do want to share what happens in that context with the whole
>> community.  No decisions will be made in those meetings - the dev list will
>> always be used to discuss stuff and to get consensus/decisions made - but
>> they do serve a useful purpose to keep progress being made and
>> accountability for those whose "day job" it is to be contributing on a
>> weekly basis. This would be like if Hortonworks or Cloudera published notes
>> from their internal meetings and shared them with the rest of the Hadoop
>> community - so it's actually intended as added openness rather than
>> closed-ness or inner circle-ness.  (We could decide to just not share the
>> notes, which is what probably goes on elsewhere - but we thought it might
>> be nice to be all the more open.)  Make sense?
>>
>> On 5/17/15 3:21 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>>
>>> The question is not, whether there is something "useful" (for whom)?
>>>
>>> It is generally recommended to avoid inner circles, and the like, and
>>> have as much transparency as possible. That avoids that others are
>>> getting the feeling to be outsiders.
>>>
>>> Jochen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Chris Hillery <chillery@hillery.land>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think you're going to get a lot of useful real-time discussion
>>>> about things via IRC. At that point, we may as well just send status in
>>>> email - which I'm not necessarily opposed to, but that does seem like a
>>>> fairly significant shift in group culture.
>>>>
>>>> Ceej
>>>> aka Chris Hillery
>>>> On May 16, 2015 11:06 PM, "Mike Carey" <dtabass@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  That sounds like an interesting possibility....!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/15/15 11:01 PM, Henry Saputra wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  We could what Apache Aurora did. Using IRC to do the meeting and allow
>>>>>> ASF IRC bot [1] to record and send to dev@ list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/asfbot.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Ian Maxon <imaxon@uci.edu>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>>> Most of us attend a weekly "AsterixDB" meeting, either via Skype
or
>>>>>>> in-person. However the focus of this meeting is two fold. One
part
>>>>>>> of it
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> regarding the development of AsterixDB, and the other part is
about
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> research efforts that many of us are undertaking, that may not
>>>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>>> be directly relevant to AsterixDB itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because of that, the minutes from these weekly meetings often
contain
>>>>>>> things that would be of interest to all committers and folks
>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>> interested in AsterixDB, but they also contain things that are
>>>>>>> unrelated.
>>>>>>> So on one hand it seems natural to post the minutes to this
>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>> list, I think there is still uncertainty about whether or not
simply
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> that is the right thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have other Apache projects dealt with this situation? i.e. what
to do
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> meetings contain information and decisions relevant to the project,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> also address other non-Apache concerns? Any/all guidance and
input
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> - Ian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>

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