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From Madhan Neethiraj <>
Subject Re: JSON License and Apache Projects
Date Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:31:54 GMT
Hemanth, David,

Atlas uses JOSN libraries from org.json4s, while the licensing issue seems to be about the
code/libraries from ‘’. Are both referring to the


On 11/25/16, 2:00 AM, "David Radley" <> wrote:

    Hi ,
    It does seem like we should move away from using this json library. Of the 
    options, I suggest we use Jackson,
           all the best,  David. 
    From:   Hemanth Yamijala <>
    Date:   25/11/2016 09:13
    Subject:        Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects
    Is this something to worry about? I see references to
    o.json.JSONObject in HiveHook. And we seem to be pulling it in via
    Hive dependencies.
    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Ted Dunning <>
    Date: Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:40 AM
    Subject: Fwd: JSON License and Apache Projects
    To: "" <>
    The VP Legal for Apache has determined that the JSON processing library
    from <> is not usable as a
    dependency by Apache projects. This is because the license includes a line
    that places a field of use condition on downstream users in a way that is
    not compatible with Apache's license.
    This decision is, unfortunately, a change from the previous situation.
    While the current decision is correct, it would have been nice if we had
    had this decision originally.
    As such, some existing projects may be impacted because they assumed that
    the dependency was OK to use.
    Incubator projects that are currently using the library have
    several courses of action:
    1) just drop it. Some projects like Storm have demos that use twitter4j
    which incorporates the problematic code. These demos aren't core and could
    just be dropped for a time.
    2) help dependencies move away from problem code. I have sent a pull
    request to twitter4 <>j, for
    example, that eliminates the problem. If they accept the pull, then all
    would be good for the projects that use twitter4j (and thus
    3) replace the artifact with a compatible one that is open 
    I have created and published an artifact based on clean-room Android code
    <> that replicates the most important
    parts of the code. This code is compatible, but lacks some
    coverage. It also could lead to jar hell if used unjudiciously because it
    uses the org.json package. Shading and exclusion in a pom might help. Or
    not. Go with caution here.
    4) switch to safer alternatives such as Jackson. This requires code
    changes, but is probably a good thing to do. This option is the one that 
    best in the long-term but is also the most expensive.
    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Jim Jagielski <>
    Date: Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:10 AM
    Subject: JSON License and Apache Projects
    To: ASF Board <>
    (forwarded from legal-discuss@)
    As some of you may know, recently the JSON License has been
    moved to Category X (
    I understand that this has impacted some projects, especially
    those in the midst of doing a release. I also understand that
    up until now, really, there has been no real "outcry" over our
    usage of it, especially from end-users and other consumers of
    our projects which use it.
    As compelling as that is, the fact is that the JSON license
    itself is not OSI approved and is therefore not, by definition,
    an "Open Source license" and, as such, cannot be considered as
    one which is acceptable as related to categories.
    Therefore, w/ my VP Legal hat on, I am making the following
     o No new project, sub-project or codebase, which has not
       used JSON licensed jars (or similar), are allowed to use
       them. In other words, if you haven't been using them, you
       aren't allowed to start. It is Cat-X.
     o If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*,
       AND there has been NO pushback from your community/eco-system,
       you have a temporary exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru
       April 30, 2017. At that point in time, ANY and ALL usage
       of these JSON licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. You must
       either find a suitably licensed replacement, or do without.
       There will be NO exceptions.
     o Any situation not covered by the above is an implicit
       DISALLOWAL of usage.
    Also please note that in the 2nd situation (where a temporary
    exclusion has been granted), you MUST ensure that NOTICE explicitly
    notifies the end-user that a JSON licensed artifact exists. They
    may not be aware of it up to now, and that MUST be addressed.
    If there are any questions, please ask on the legal-discuss@a.o
    Jim Jagielski
    VP Legal Affairs
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    IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 
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