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From Andreas Veithen <andreas.veit...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Discussion - Moving Axis2/C and Axis1 to Attic
Date Sat, 04 Jul 2015 20:13:59 GMT
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Deepal jayasinghe <deepalk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sound good. I am +1 on having under one PMC boundary. So, let's try to move
> them to archive. Will start a vote.
>
> Regarding Sandesha2, I think we have to keep that with Axis branch, because
> Axis2 needs those to fully function.

For reference: http://markmail.org/thread/ogxygniqcesqyub2

Sandesha2 is an implementation of WS-RM, and that protocol is not
widely used. When I removed the build from Jenkins, it had concurrency
issues nobody has ever been able to figure out how to fix.

> Deepal
>
>> The same as moving them to the Attic, except that you don't cross PMC
>> boundaries. You basically do two things:
>>
>> - Move the SVN trees of the projects to /axis/archive.
>> - Add a notice to their sites saying that they are no longer active
>> (see e.g. http://ws.apache.org/wsif/) or remove/archive their sites
>> entirely.
>>
>> Once that's done, you don't need to mention them in the board reports any
>> more.
>>
>> BTW, it's once thing to decide moving subprojects to the
>> archive/Attic, but we also need to implement these decisions. IIRC, we
>> decided to archive Sandesha2 and some other stuff, but that decision
>> has never been implemented.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Deepal jayasinghe <deepalk@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What do we achieve from moving projects to archive ? we still need to
>>> keep
>>> reporting to the board ?.
>>>
>>> Above all, do we think we have enough cycles to fix issues and make
>>> releases?
>>>
>>> Deepal
>>>>
>>>> I'm in favor of _archiving_ Axis1/C++ and Axis2/C. By archiving I mean
>>>> doing the same as we did with inactive projects in Apache Web
>>>> Services, i.e. moving them to an archive area inside the PMC's SVN
>>>> tree. I think that's much easier than moving them to the Attic PMC.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the Axis(/Java) 1.x branch, getting it ready for a release
>>>> will require some work and that is not going to happen in the near
>>>> future. However, I think that keeping the branch alive is useful for
>>>> our users. The fact is that the original Axis 1.4 source distribution
>>>> is no longer buildable because of problems with modern JDKs and unit
>>>> tests that call external Web services that have been shut down long
>>>> ago. On the other hand, the code in the branch has been refactored to
>>>> use Maven, the unit tests with external (runtime) dependencies have
>>>> been fixed and the code is currently buildable. There is clear
>>>> evidence that users make use of that branch. Two recent examples:
>>>> AXIS-2442 (a user who checked out the Axis 1.x branch and then cherry
>>>> picked a patch from another abandoned branch) and [1] (a pull request
>>>> created using the Github mirror for that branch). I think that as long
>>>> as somebody (me) finds the time to keep that branch buildable and
>>>> there are users who use it to solve issues, there is no reason to shut
>>>> it down.
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/axis1-java/pull/1
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Sagara Gunathunga
>>>> <sagara.gunathunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Deepal jayasinghe <deepalk@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like we do not have enough activities going on Axis2/c and
Axis1
>>>>>> project, and no clear plans for future release or bug fixes. Unless
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> wants to come forward to keep the projects active I would consider
>>>>>> moving
>>>>>> them to Attic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> +1 to move Axis2/c into Attic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes back I have seen Andreas  was doing some improvements on
>>>>> Axis1
>>>>> but not sure whether we are in a position to release it,
>>>>> otherwise I'm ok to move Axis1 also into Attic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on the outcome, I will start a vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deepal
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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