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From "Doug Davis" <>
Subject Re: WASP & Axis
Date Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:41:02 GMT
I'm up for working on whatever is the best implementation.
Whether that's Axis, SOAP v2 or WASP doesn't really matter
to me.  So, from me: Yes I'm willing.
I think your idea of submitting the C++ version first
is a great one if you don't want us to see the java version.
My only concern is that from an end-user's perspective will
it seem odd that there is no relationship at all between
how the C and Java versions work?  Obviously because they're
different languages there will be differences but if the
entire architecture and way of working with things is so
different it might be a turn-off to some.  So, I suspect
that having the two will force a decision that will either
cause the C version to be rewritten to mirror the Java one
or the Java one will become like the C version (ie. WASP).
Either way - that might be a nice way to work it.

"Radovan Janecek" <> on 12/05/2001 10:44:52 AM

Please respond to

To:   <>
Subject:  Re: WASP & Axis

Hi Dug,

it's perfect what you said. This is the reason why I want to discuss our
contribution prior it actually happen. I want to know whether there is a
_will_ to start the new generation of Axis (say Axis 3) in the future among
Axis developers. Because if not, I don't see any reason for Systinet to
contribute its Java code. It is obvious that any merging activity would
much more effort than starting new project from the scratch. As a developer
I wouldn't predict a good future for such morphed piece of software :-).

So, this is a basic question: Are you willing to start a new project Axis3
if you realize that WASP brings cool things? And when?

I'm realizing stronger and stronger, that probably the best start would be
to contribute WASP for C++ only and discuss the Java one further. What do
you think?


Btw, the quoted 'doubtful' paragraph is mine, not Sam's :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Davis" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: WASP & Axis

> Sam wrote:
> >There are also other questions in my mind, but maybe it is enough for
> >I'd like to hear your and other Axis developers opinions on this. I can
> >easily imagine that Axis developers won't be happy with starting new
> >3' project in the near future just because Systinet offers its framework
> to
> >Apache. :-)
> I glad someone else said this first  :-) ... nothing against Systinet or
> the "unknown code" but I'm confused why it appears like we're
> ready to dump Axis in favor of something that we know next to nothing
> about?  Shouldn't ALL of this discussion of grabbing someone's code
> be done AFTER we actually look at the code?  Even if we like the
> architecture that does not mean we'll automatically like the code.
> And, btw, I don't think anyone has actually voted on replacing
> Axis' architecture with a new one.  I would feel much more comfortable
> with all of this if we actually had something tangible to look at
> and play with - it seems like we should decide IF we want something
> before we decide WHERE we want it.  I see us discussing WHERE before
> the IF.
> -Dug

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