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From Andreas Veithen <andreas.veit...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: FW: zones being moved to jails very soon
Date Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:25:08 GMT
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 15:49, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 15 August 2010 7:15:40 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> I changed the builds of Axis2 core (trunk and 1.5 branch) as well as
>> Axis2 Transports so that they no longer depend on ws.zones.apache.org.
>> However, I had to change the version and/or groupId of some
>> dependencies so that they can be fetched from Maven central. This
>> means that if ws.zones.apache.org disappears, we won't have problems
>> with the upcoming releases, but we will still have problems with
>> previous releases. Also, Rampart depends on some OpenSAML artifacts
>> stored in the repository on ws.zones.apache.org. I didn't check
>> Sandesha.
>
> I believe everything Rampart requires related to OpenSAML is also at central,
> mostly because I personally put them there at central for CXF and WSS4J.  :-)
>
> In general, CXF won't take dependencies on any release that's not at central
> (we'll pull in snapshots as needed from elsewhere during development/testing,
> but releases must be at central).   It's just easier for everyone that way.

+1. Checking the content (and if possible eliminating) the repository
on ws.zones.apache.org has been on my todo list for quite some time,
but I never got to it until now. I changed the Rampart POMs to use the
artifacts from Maven central instead of ws.zones.apache.org.

> Dan
>
>
>>
>> To summarize: we no longer need the zone, but the ws.zones.apache.org
>> site needs to be preserved. Is http://ws.zones.apache.org/ served from
>> an HTTP server installed in the zone, and if yes, it is possible to
>> move that to another HTTP server with a virtual host named
>> ws.zones.apache.org?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 09:42, Andreas Veithen
>>
>> <andreas.veithen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Our Axis2 build (and maybe others) still contains a reference to
>> > http://ws.zones.apache.org/repository2. I will check if there are
>> > actually artifacts in there that are not available from other
>> > repositories.
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 22:42, Glen Daniels <glen@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi Gav,
>> >>
>> >> I *think* we're good without a jail for now, since IIRC our old zone
>> >> usage was mostly for automated builds which we're now using Hudson for.
>> >>  It's possible we will want a jail in the future in order to host
>> >> sample services and the like, but we can certainly ask for it when we
>> >> need it.  We're generally in a "cleaning house" phase right now, so
>> >> that likely won't be for a while.
>> >>
>> >> WS folks, please chime in if I'm missing anything and we really do need
>> >> the zone transferred to a fresh jail.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> --Glen
>> >>
>> >> On 8/13/2010 10:50 PM, Gav... wrote:
>> >>> Hi WS folks,
>> >>>
>> >>> looks like this email missed you guys first time around.
>> >>> I've had a look and it looks like http://ws.zones.apache.org/ is not
in
>> >>> use, so your
>> >>> answer is likely that you don't need a new replacement Jail for the
>> >>> time being, but
>> >>> please take a read and let me know your answer as soon as you can.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Gav...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Gav... [mailto:gavin@16degrees.com.au]
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2010 4:31 PM
>> >>> To: infrastructure-private@apache.org
>> >>> Cc: private@cocoon.apache.org; private@geronimo.apache.org;
>> >>> private@gump.apache.org; private@harmony.apache.org;
>> >>> private@httpd.apache.org; private@maven.apache.org;
>> >>> private@myfaces.apache.org; private@portals.apache.org;
>> >>> private@struts.apache.org; private@velocity.apache.org;
>> >>> private@lenya.apache.org; private@lucene.apache.org
>> >>> Subject: zones being moved to jails very soon
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi All (maintainer pmcs of a zone),
>> >>>
>> >>> This is a heads up that our Solaris machine Helios , which houses the
>> >>> current project zones, is to be turned off soon for good.
>> >>> It is being replaced by Sigyn, a FreeBSD machine which will house
>> >>> FreeBSD jails as replacements for these zones should they still
>> >>> be required.
>> >>>
>> >>> Some questions that I would like answers to ASAP please to help in the
>> >>> effort to get these moved. Please note that once turned
>> >>> off, these zones will be deleted, so be sure to back up any data you
>> >>> might need, and/or answer below with that in mind.
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. When your zone is turned off, will you require a replacement FreeBSD
>> >>> Jail ?
>> >>>    (Some zones seem to be not in use, or rarely at best. If we don't
>> >>> need to migrate to a jail
>> >>>     it would certainly save us some time and space, as there are many
>> >>> to do. Perhaps if you
>> >>>     are not sure, be assured at a later date if you want a Jail after
>> >>> all, just ask and we'll
>> >>>     be glad to set you up with one.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. If provided with the Jail, would you be prepared to migrate to it
>> >>> yourselves ?
>> >>>    (Some assistance will be provided if asked for, but you know your
>> >>> setup better and it would
>> >>>     be nice if all we had to do was provide user accts and perhaps
some
>> >>> jail/FreeSBD specific help)
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. If provided with the Jail, would you be prepared to start from clean
>> >>> and not require old data ?
>> >>>    (We would give you a clean Jail, the user accounts you require,
plus
>> >>> install any extra initial
>> >>>     software in addition to the basic install should you need any)
>> >>>
>> >>> 4. None of the above, in other words, you still need a Jail and you
>> >>> require all the old data,
>> >>>    but cannot spare any time or resources in helping to move from
the
>> >>> zone to the Jail.
>> >>>    (Obviously my least favourite answer, but understand if this is
the
>> >>> case. This move from zones
>> >>>     to Jails is inevitable and not your choice, so are prepared to
>> >>> undertake all the work if it
>> >>>     becomes necessary. Obviously the whole process will take longer,
>> >>> downtime will be longer and
>> >>>     perhaps not knowing the setup of your zone as good as you, things
>> >>> may be different and/or you
>> >>>     may need to tweak/fix your own software afterwards to make it
work
>> >>> (properly))
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to get started straight away, in fact have tested on a
few
>> >>> already.
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to have this move completed within the next week or two
so
>> >>> as soon you can reply I can get
>> >>> organised.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please reply-to infrastructure-private list only so you don't annoy
the
>> >>> other pmc private lists :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks All. And, please, if you yourselves have questions for me or
>> >>> other infra regarding the move, please
>> >>> ask away.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gav...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
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