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From Deepal jayasinghe <deep...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Axis move to the Attic (was: Board concerns over Axis project reports - README)
Date Thu, 12 Oct 2017 02:23:16 GMT
I agree with Robert, Andreas is really active and he was able to push 
forward a release few weeks back as well.

I really like him to be the PMC chair and we can give required support 
to him

Deepal
> I was waiting for Andreas Veithen to reply since he is by far the most 
> active contributor to Axis2 currently.
>
> I have a vested interest in Axis2 going forward as its used 
> extensively by the company I work for. The CVE questions that come up 
> periodically with Axis2 and its dependencies are essential for the 
> project to continue, and I don't expect being in the attic will allow 
> Axis2 to be used in production projects.
>
> I have been a committer to Axis2 since 2006. I contributed the Spring 
> Framework support to Axis2, ported the SOAP Monitor from Axis1 to 
> Axis2, and wrote some docs explaining both of these and also the Ant 
> commands. This was all years go.
>
> Since then I did respond to some recent security questions regarding 
> the SOAP Monitor, and I do help on the user list around once a month.
>
> From my perspective, we have at least 3 active members as we have had 
> several releases this year already. No problems voting. Because of any 
> CVE's I always run the latest version and dependencies, so I do test 
> the releases.
>
> The main problem as I see it, is no one has stepped up to take over 
> the monthly Apache board reports as required for the Axis2 project. I 
> am not sure I am the right person for it, though it doesn't seem hard.
>
> As stated, I am hoping Andreas Veithen can share his thoughts.
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com 
> <mailto:davanum@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     +1 from me (Axis->Attic). Lot's of good memories :) Thanks Shane.
>
>     -- Dims
>
>     On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Shane Curcuru
>     <asf@shanecurcuru.org <mailto:asf@shanecurcuru.org>> wrote:
>     > (bcc: general@, c-dev@, board@ for FYI)
>     >
>     > Since there hasn't been any response to the below email by any PMC
>     > members (or indeed any community members), it may be time Axis
>     to go to
>     > the Apache Attic, and turn the entire project read-only.
>     >
>     > To be blunt: if there are not three active PMC members to ensure
>     that
>     > the board has quarterly reports and the project could vote on a
>     > potential security release, my estimate is that the board will
>     move the
>     > entire Axis project to the Attic no later than the November board
>     > meeting, possibly earlier.
>     >
>     > I strongly urge any PMC members or even committers on the project to
>     > step up, propose a new PMC chair, and work on a report for the
>     board ASAP.
>     >
>     > ---- Some perspective on why board reports are important ----
>     >
>     > In the governance model at the ASF the board delegates
>     responsibility
>     > for managing projects to PMCs. To enable to board to provide
>     oversight
>     > across the foundation, the the PMCs aretasked with providing the
>     board
>     > with a quarterly report on the health of the project. The board has
>     > noticed that the reports for XXX have been missed for a number
>     > of months.
>     >
>     > The reports to the board are normally written by the PMC chair
>     but all
>     > PMC members have an individual responsibility to ensure that a
>     report is
>     > submitted. If the PMC chair is not available then any PMC member can
>     > submit the report. If you need help with this process, please
>     reach out
>     > to board@apache.org <mailto:board@apache.org>
>     >
>     > Please ensure that a report for XXX is submitted to the board
>     for the
>     > next meeting.
>     >
>     > If the PMC chair is not going to be available for an extended
>     period of
>     > time it may make sense to rotate the PMC chair. Rotating the PMC
>     chair
>     > does not mean the current chair has failed. People's situations and
>     > interests change, and rotation is good as it allows more people to
>     > become familiar with that role. Again, if assistance is required
>     with
>     > this process, please feel free to reach out to board@apache.org
>     <mailto:board@apache.org>
>     >
>     > As projects mature, they will naturally reach a point where activity
>     > reduces to a level that the project is no longer sustainable. At
>     Apache,
>     > projects reach this stage when there are no longer 3 active PMC
>     members
>     > providing oversight. Projects that reach this stage are placed
>     in the
>     > attic [1].  If XXX has reached this point, please reach out to
>     the Attic
>     > project to arrange transfer. On the other hand, if your project is
>     > mostly dormant but still has at least three active PMC members
>     it can
>     > stay in that state for as long as needed. If your project is in
>     such a
>     > state, please mention that in your report and verify the PMC's
>     state at
>     > regular intervals.
>     >
>     > Finally, if you have any questions please feel free to reach out to
>     > board@apache.org <mailto:board@apache.org>
>     >
>     > ----
>     >
>     > On 2017-09-20 10:31, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org
>     <mailto:asf@shanecurcuru.org>> wrote: > (Note
>     > mixed private/public lists)
>     >>
>     >> The ASF requires that any Apache project have at least three
>     somewhat
>     >> active PMC members - such that they can do things like review
>     patches,
>     >> and in particular vote to release a software update in case of
>     security
>     >> issues.  To verify that Apache projects are still operating by ASF
>     >> policies, the board requires that each PMC provides a report of
>     activity
>     >> and project health each quarter.
>     >>
>     >> It's clear there's still some contributors wanting to work on
>     Axis, but
>     >> lately, it's equally clear from watching the lack of acceptable
>     reports
>     >> to the board that the PMC as a whole is not working out.
>     >>
>     >> I strongly urge all PMC members still listening here to work
>     out among
>     >> yourselves a plan to 1) choose a new project chair and
>     recommend them to
>     >> the board ASAP and 2) engage with the contributors still here
>     to review
>     >> their work and keep the project moving forward.
>     >>
>     >> If the PMC (and/or committers on the project) can't show some
>     obviously
>     >> organized energy at project management, then perhaps it's time
>     for the
>     >> project as a whole to consider moving to the Attic soon.
>     >
>     > --
>     >
>     > - Shane
>     > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
>     <https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources>
>
>
>
>     --
>     Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims
>
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