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From "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sanj...@opensource.lk>
Subject Re: can i help
Date Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:16:54 GMT
Please don't use "JWS" .. that's already used in Axis for Java Web
Services as you may know ...

I didn't realize this was an RI for a JSR. If so I'm even more confused why
its not a project on its own .. amongst the other various WS projects.

Oh well - its finally up to the developer community, of course. If you feel
comfortable with the situation then I withdraw my objection.

Sanjiva.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: ". Ias" <iasandcb@hotmail.com>
To: <beehive-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: can i help


> Here's my understanding and opinion on this issue so far as a creator of
> Axis WSM.
>
> 1. Beehive JWS, of which name is from its wiki page although I called it
> Beehive WSM (I agree that JWS is better based on its history), is supposed
> to implement JSR 181 as RI that BEA must provide because they lead the
spec
> in JCP.
>
> 2. Beehive team has several committers (from BEA and Tmax) including the
> spec lead of JSR 181 and me for the job.
>
> 3. As I proposed roughly before, Beehive JWS consists of two layers, a JSR
> 181 processor and a possible integration with a web services platform such
> as Axis.
>
> 4. As far as I'm concerned, it would be good for Web Services project to
> co-work on JSR 181 with BEA inside Beehive project. The reason is that JSR
> 181 belongs to web services technologies, but also is a practical
> application of metadata newly introduced in J2SE 5.0. Beehive requires and
> uses metadata a lot. We can expect help and guidance from Beehive
> developers who are already very familiar with metadata.
>
> 5. Regarding the current situation that there's no code for Beehive JWS
> contributed initially by BEA, I propose that JSR 181 API part should be
> checked in as soon as possible to Beehive SVN repository and we should
keep
> discussing how we will implement it and integrate it with Axis. I'll make
> my proposal more detailed within a week, and probably talk about it in
Axis
> 2 Summit as well. In my humble opinion, we all have a nice chance to build
> an open source implementation from the early stage of its targeted spec
> with spec folks and impl folks :-) In other words, the two groups can
> interact productively and progressively to make a JSR 181 implementation
> robust in both technical and pragmatical sense.
>
> Thank you all for your interest in JWS,
>
> Ias
>
> >From: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sanjiva@opensource.lk>
> >Reply-To: "Beehive Developers" <beehive-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> >To: "Beehive Developers"
> <beehive-dev@incubator.apache.org>,<dims@apache.org>
> >Subject: Re: can i help
> >Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 21:05:49 +0600
> >
> >+1 .. my personal pref is if the work is directly Web services
> >related it should be done under the WS PMC as much as possible.
> >
> >In addition to the incubation related advantages Dims points
> >out I also think others will discover this work more easily
> >if its in the WS family.
> >
> >Sanjiva.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Davanum Srinivas" <davanum@gmail.com>
> >To: "Beehive Developers" <beehive-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:10 AM
> >Subject: Re: can i help
> >
> >
> > > Heather,
> > >
> > > My 2 cents, i don't really care where it is done, as long as it gets
> > > done :) We can do this either under the Beehive PMC or WS PMC.
> > > Objective definitely is to get this done quickly and not get stuck
> > > because beehive is still in incubation. Especially since this is ALL
> > > new code that needs to be written and there is NO existing code
> > > contributed in the incubation phase from BEA, it would make sense to
> > > do this under WS PMC (so that we can release really quickly w/o
> > > waiting for beehive to get out of incubation). If you all want to do
> > > that, then let me and sanjiva know...
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > dims
> > >
> > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:15:02 -0700, Heather Stephens
<heathers@bea.com>
> >wrote:
> > > > Hi Sanjiva.
> > > >
> > > > The web service part of this project is intended to be an
> implementation
> > > > of annotation-based programming model for web services (JSR-181).
> > > >
> > > > See mail threads for latest discussion (and feel free to give your
> > > > comments!) -->
> > > >
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=beehive-dev@incubato
> > > > r.apache.org&msgNo=145
> > > > and
> > > >
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=beehive-dev@incubato
> > > > r.apache.org&msgNo=155
> > > >
> > > > JSR-181 info can be found here -->
> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=181
> > > >
> > > > Latest thinking on how it might happen within Beehive is found in
> this
> > > > proposal from Ias -->
> > > > http://www.apache.org/~ias/beehive-wsm-proposal-draft.txt
> > > > He and others already have prototype code in Axis that we can use
> here.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this helps.
> > > > H.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:sanjiva@opensource.lk]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:20 PM
> > > > To: Beehive Developers
> > > > Subject: Re: can i help
> > > >
> > > > If this project is a pure *Web service* project why would we do it
> > > > as a part of Beehive? I'd rather see it under ws.apache.org
> > > > somewhere. Maybe I misunderstood?
> > > >
> > > > Sanjiva.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mario Morgado" <mmorgado@rogers.com>
> > > > To: "Beehive Developers" <beehive-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:50 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: can i help
> > > >
> > > > > Once I complete reading the documentation on the various sites, 
I
> > > > will
> > > > provide feedback once i have had some time to put it into context
> > > > >
> > > > > Heather Stephens <heathers@bea.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hey gang. Mario is interested in helping out with the WS
> > > > implementation
> > > > > for Beehive.
> > > > >
> > > > > The first step is to review the document Ias sent out:
> > > > > http://www.apache.org/~ias/beehive-wsm-proposal-draft.txt
> > > > > (Ias - now that we have a wiki we can go ahead and post this URL
to
> > > > it.)
> > > > >
> > > > > And then as the plan takes shape ways you can help would include:
> > > > > 1. Using the implementation done by committers and posting bugs,
> > > > asking
> > > > > questions or sending on actual fixes to this alias.
> > > > > 2. Writing samples or docs.
> > > > > 3. Perhaps picking off a feature to implement and submitting to
> this
> > > > > alias for acceptance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any other ideas anyone?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mario Morgado [mailto:mmorgado@rogers.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:40 PM
> > > > > To: Heather Stephens
> > > > > Subject: RE: can i help
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Heather I have read the documentation, and would be happy to
> assist
> > > > > with the webservice implementation, seems very interesting having
> been
> > > > > architecting webservices for the last 2 years now, so I think I
may
> be
> > > > > of some use
> > > > >
> > > > > I have downloaded SVN, what is next.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Heather Stephens [mailto:heathers@bea.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 12:51 PM
> > > > > To: Mario Morgado
> > > > > Subject: RE: can i help
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mario. Sorry for the late reply.
> > > > >
> > > > > What part of Beehive are you interested in? The part that will be
> > > > > needing the most work, other than just using Beehive to build
> > > > > pageflows/controls/etc., is the webservice implementation. I've
> > > > > attached the last email from ias on that subject.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this helps.
> > > > > Heather
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > From: Mario Morgado [mailto:mmorgado@rogers.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 7:27 AM
> > > > > To: Heather Stephens
> > > > > Subject: can i help
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Heather I would really like to help if there is an opportunity
> for
> > > > me
> > > > > to participate, let me know what I can do, I have downloaded the
> > > > > source tree.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just finishing up another project FPML which started much the
> > > > same
> > > > > way as beehive.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mario Morgado
> > > > > Chief Systems Architect
> > > > > RDM Corporation
> > > > > 519-746-8483 X339
> > > > > 416-576-2987 Mobile
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mario Morgado
> > > > > Cheif Architect, Project Manager
> > > > > RDM Corporation
> > > > > 519-746-8483 X339
> > > > > 416-576-2987 Mobile
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > >
> >
>
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