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From Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com>
Subject Mailing list archives Was: Welcome to Rebase Hell!
Date Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:59:33 GMT
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Assaf Arkin <arkin@intalio.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Martijn Dashorst <
> martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please note, that I am fan of github. I'd wish Apache would have the
>> same infrastructure as github. It would give the ASF Community a real
>> sparkle: the social aspects of github are really nice.
>
>
> I think Apache should stay out of the infrastructure business altogether.
> They should provide only the bare minimum that is necessary to follow the
> Apache Way. They do it with email, they give you an address but no email
> client; mailing lists are hosted by Apache, but many people use far better
> archives to access them (nibble, markmail, etc); projects can run their own
> build or CI servers, etc. Same with source control: they should host the
> licensed and reviewed contributions repositories, and let people figure out
> the UI on their own. Then we could use a hosted service like Github, which
> is not something Apache can provide, and the infrastructure pain for Apache
> will drop, since very few people will be hammering their Git repo (mostly
> committers and CI).
>

Speaking of, now that we're top-level and know our mailing lists, would be
cool to point people at usable mailing list archives (i.e. not Apaches). Any
recommendations?

Assaf


>
> Assaf
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Martijn Dashorst
>> <martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've read it, and have problems understanding what you mean by main
>> > repository then?
>> >
>> > Nowhere in Vic's message do I see a synchronization step where commits
>> > end up in svn?
>> >
>> > Martijn
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Assaf Arkin <arkin@intalio.com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Martijn Dashorst <
>> martijn.dashorst@gmail.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Assaf Arkin <arkin@intalio.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> > I'm with you in using Github as the main repository:
>> >>>
>> >>> As an ASF Member I must protest against the direction that you are
>> >>> taking this project. GitHub can not be used as the main repository for
>> >>> any ASF Project. The canonical resource for Apache project's code must
>> >>> be hosted on Apache hardware. Since the only repository that is
>> >>> supported by Infrastructure is SVN, you'll have to maintain the
>> >>> primary source for your project *in* SVN. Not somewhere else, not
>> >>> bypassing ASF authorizations, not bypassing Apache policy.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Since when have we not made Buildr code available through SVN?
>> >>
>> >> You're reading my comment sans context. You have to start with Vic's
>> email
>> >> to which I'm replying.
>> >>
>> >> Assaf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Martijn
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released
>> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com
>> Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released
>> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.
>>
>
>

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