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From Li Yang <liy...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation
Date Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:00:29 GMT
Kylin is a consumer of Avatica.  Kylin JDBC driver is built on top of it.
Nice library, would love to see more adoptions of it.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Nick Dimiduk <ndimiduk@apache.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > The ORC experiment has a control group: Parquet. Parquet is similar to
> ORC
> > in many respects. It started at around the same time, but outside Apache,
> > and later as an incubator project. Today Parquet has achieved more
> diverse
> > adoption, and has a more diverse community, than ORC.
> >
>
> The empirical argument of breadth of community and adoption is a strong
> one. The only downstream consumer of Avatica that I'm aware of is Phoenix.
> I would like to see at least one other community adopt it. Kylin seems like
> a strong candidate. Perhaps a Hive Server 3? Would Drill be interested? Are
> there others?
>
> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <ndimiduk@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > IMO, Avatica is still too young to be it's own Incubator. I'm thinking
> of
> > > most of the projects I've noticed coming to Incubator in the past, the
> > > common thread amongst them is production deployments and a largish (5+
> > > people) committer base. I think Avatica is still smaller and younger
> than
> > > is. Calcite isn't harmed by maintaining Avatica, nor is Avatica "held
> > back"
> > > by Calcite.  We've seen other TLP's spin out projects (ORC from Hive,
> > HBase
> > > from Hadoop, the recent Yetus from Hadoop). Let's allow Avatica to
> > develop
> > > (or not) on its own schedule, or until it becomes a in some why burden
> on
> > > Calcite.
> > >
> > > -n
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I’d like to introduce a meta-discussion into this thread.
> > >>
> > >> Calcite’s Avatica module[1] is growing into a separate community.
> > Calcite
> > >> depends upon Avatica but not vice versa. At some point I would like to
> > >> consider splitting Avatica out as a separate project (an incubation
> > project
> > >> and ultimately a TLP). There is no particular urgency to this
> decision.
> > >>
> > >> Is now a good time to have that discussion, or is it better to have
> that
> > >> discussion after graduation?
> > >>
> > >> Julian
> > >>
> > >> [1] http://calcite.incubator.apache.org/docs/avatica.html
> > >>
> > >>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:03 PM, James Taylor <jamestaylor@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> +1 to graduation. I think diversity is increasing and the project is
> on
> > >> an
> > >>> excellent trajectory.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> James
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I do commit quite a large proportion of third-party contributions.
> But
> > >>>> these days it’s common for others to get involved the discussion
> when
> > >>>> there’s a new patch. Pull #106 [1] is typical: Sean provided
a
> patch,
> > >>>> Vladimir reviewed, I ended up committing.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I’d be delighted if other committers shared the load of committing.
> > (As
> > >> I
> > >>>> said they’re already doing a lot of the reviewing. And committing
> > their
> > >> own
> > >>>> contributions.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Julian
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/pull/106 <
> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/pull/106>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> One random question.  I have some sense that the vast majority
of
> > >> commits
> > >>>>> are still being merged by Julian. (even when the patches are
> > generated
> > >> by
> > >>>>> others).  I haven't actually quantified/determined whether
this is
> > true
> > >>>> but
> > >>>>> wanted to ask.  I don't think this is a showstopper for graduation
> > but
> > >> I
> > >>>>> think we should get that more spread out if it is still the
case.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Is Calcite ready to graduate from the incubator and become
a TLP
> > >>>>>> (top-level project)?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> See the policy [1] and guidelines [2].
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Julian
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
> <
> > >>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
<
> > >>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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