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From Nick Dimiduk <ndimi...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation
Date Fri, 04 Sep 2015 05:55:57 GMT
+1 on Julian as initial VP, if he's interested in holding the
responsibility. I like Jacques's suggestion of a "renewal consideration" on
some interval. I'm not sure this is necessary to include as bylaws, more
like a healthy practice for a democratically organized endeavor.

-n

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org> wrote:

> My thoughts on this are a little different. I like the concept as it simply
> causes a discussion to happen once a year. The community can always choose
> to have the same person. This just helps us lazy people to remember to
> discuss this on occasion. Momentum is great and time flies. I like having a
> reminder once in a while...
> On Sep 2, 2015 9:49 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hmmm.  Rotating often is really good for spreading knowledge.
> >
> > If calcite has any defect it is the tendency to depend on Julian's high
> > throughput.  Hard to argue with in the moment but the project will do
> > better from spreading the load and experience.  Having Jacques run the
> last
> > release was a great step in that direction.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 2, 2015, at 21:10, James Taylor <jamestaylor@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 to Julian as VP. If folks are willing to step up for taking the
> reins,
> > > that's a good idea, but a yearly rotation may be too frequent
> (especially
> > > initially) IMHO.
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I appreciate the humility but I think it is a no-brainer that Julian
> > should
> > >> be the VP.  The one thought I suggest is having a rotating chair each
> > year.
> > >> Thoughts on that?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Let’s agree on the text of the motion before we start a vote. I
> propose
> > >>> the following text (see below).
> > >>>
> > >>> If you are a committer, please:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Review the text.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. Remove your name from the list, if you do NOT wish to remain a
> > >>> committer after graduation. (You can email me privately if you
> prefer.)
> > >>>
> > >>> 3. Send nominations for an initial Vice President. (This will replace
> > the
> > >>> placeholder, "<TBD>”, in the text below.)
> > >>>
> > >>> At Ted’s suggestion, I started a thread on the Incubator list asking
> a
> > >>> shepherd to review.
> > >>>
> > >>> Julian
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> - - - - snip
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> of
> > >>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> > establish
> > >> a
> > >>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > of
> > >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > >> related
> > >>> to parsing and planning queries on data in a wide variety of formats.
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > >> (PMC),
> > >>> to be known as the "Apache Calcite Project", be and hereby is
> > established
> > >>> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Calcite Project be and hereby is
> responsible
> > >> for
> > >>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive
> > analysis
> > >> of
> > >>> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of
> > >> "Vice
> > >>> President, Apache Calcite" be and hereby is created, the person
> holding
> > >>> such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as
> the
> > >>> chair of the Apache Calcite Project, and to have primary
> responsibility
> > >> for
> > >>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the
> > >> Apache
> > >>> Calcite Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed
> > >>> immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial
> > >>> members of the Apache Calcite Project:
> > >>>
> > >>> * Alan Gates <gates at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Aman Sinha <amansinha at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Ashutosh Chauhan <hashutosh at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Chris Wensel <cwensel at apache dot org>
> > >>> * James R. Taylor <jamestaylor at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Jesús Camacho Rodríguez <jcamacho at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Jinfeng Ni <jni at apache dot org>
> > >>> * John Pullokkaran <jpullokk at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Nick Dimiduk <ndimiduk at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Steven Noels <stevenn at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
> > >>> * Vladimir Sitnikov <vladimirsitnikov at apache dot org>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that <TBD> be appointed
to
> the
> > >>> office of Vice President, Apache Calcite, to serve in accordance with
> > and
> > >>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> > the
> > >>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > >>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Calcite Project be and hereby is tasked
> with
> > >> the
> > >>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Calcite
> podling;
> > >> and
> > >>> be it further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator
> > >>> Calcite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
> > >> hereafter
> > >>> discharged.
> > >>>
> > >>> - - - -
> > >>
> >
>

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