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From Alan Gates <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Patches
Date Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:56:22 GMT
I agree PRs are easy to work with for developers.  Here's the same question I was trying to
ask put a different way:

If a user discovers that feature X is broken, how easy it for him to find out whether someone
before him has found this bug and then figure out what version of the software he needs to
fix it.  Bug tracking systems are optimized for answering these queries, and I don't think
source control systems are.

Maybe calcite is enough developer focussed that anyone searching for issues will be comfortable
skimming through the git log to figure it out, so maybe my concerns are moot in this case.


> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Julian Hyde <> wrote:
> In principle it is hard to compute the delta of a pull request, but in practice it is
easy. A well-formed pull request is a branch that is a small number of commits away from the
master branch at the time, and the pull requests that we tend to accept are well-formed.
> Since we don’t rewrite the master branch, you can easily apply the pull request using
“git rebase”. Because git knows where where the pull request’s branch meets the master
branch, it can do a better job than “patch” could.
> Julian
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Alan Gates <> wrote:
>> I agree that PRs are easier to manage than attaching patches to JIRA.  And now days
most contributors seem to prefer them as well.
>> One question I have is about traceability and findability.  It is very nice for people
to be able to come to JIRA and figure out if others have had the same problem they have, and
if so if and where it's fixed, and exactly which commits they need to pick up if they want
the fix.  Can all this be achieved with just PRs?
>> If the answer is that PRs can't achieve that, I'd still vote for moving to them.
 But I would also suggest continuing to open JIRAs that point to the PRs.
>> Alan.
>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Julian Hyde <> wrote:
>>> Our current policy is that we accept patches attached to JIRA case and pull requests
to <>. I would like
to propose that we no longer support patches.
>>> Why? I argue that it makes the process easier for the committer. The pull request
implicitly does “git add” and “git remove”, whereas when applying a patch you have
to remember to apply these. The pull request comes in a branch, so if I modify the code as
I am reviewing it, I can easily save and restore my state. Also, a pull request is “valid”
as a contribution, from an IP standpoint, even when not accompanied by a JIRA case.
>>> Recently I went through 5 rounds of patches for a particular feature. I couldn’t
tell what had changed between one iteration of the patch and the next (you can’t “diff"
patches - you need to apply the patches to separate git branches and diff the branches - yuck!).
And I went through 3 test cycles and 24 hours before I managed to “git add” all of the
files. Yes, I did “git status” and I missed the 2 new files among all of the “.orig”
and “.rej” files in my sandbox.
>>> In summary. I propose that we accept contributions only as pull requests to
<>. If they are non-trivial they should be accompanied
by a JIRA case. Committers can propose changes any way they like, as long as they commit the
changes themselves, but if they want to make it easier for others to review, they should use
either a personal git branch or a pull request.
>>> Julian

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