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From Josh Elser <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Where do we draw the line?
Date Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:42:21 GMT
Let's not mince words about what this was: it was public shaming and 

Looking at that thread you linked: Zoltan was trying to describe why he 
thought this was not a big problem. I can't say well enough whether he 
is right or not (that's beside the point). It was completely 
inappropriate for Vladimir to bully him. Furthermore, this seems to be 
completely one-sided (although, if it were two-sided, that doesn't 
justify either side in acting this way).

This kind of crap is against the ASF code of conduct[1], and, having 
watched multiple email threads call attention to similar situation, I'm 
starting to think that this is the "norm" and not the exception from 
Vladimir which the PMC should consider taking action to correct.


On 10/18/18 2:35 PM, Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote:
> Is it OK for a PMC member of this community to engage with a new contributor to the project
in this way?
> I wanted to bring everyone´s attention to the issue because I do not believe this behavior
contributes to the health of the project, welcoming new contributions, etc. The same could
have been said in a very different way, and I do not think Zoltan was engaging disrespectfully.
> I am not sure whether I am overreacting, I would like to hear others opinion. Does anyone
else in the PMC find this disturbing? Does the ASF provide clear guidelines about how members
of a community should engage with each other?
> Thanks,
> Jesús

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