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From "Sylvain Lebresne (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Resolved] (CASSANDRA-7857) Ability to froze UDT
Date Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:29:28 GMT

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Sylvain Lebresne resolved CASSANDRA-7857.
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    Resolution: Fixed

Our beloved leader has spoken!

More seriously, I agree with Jonathan, we do need to ship asap. And I'm convinced that while
{{frozen}} may not be that hypothetical keyword that everyone agrees is perfect, it's rather
good. It isn't too much overloaded (like {{serialized}}, {{static}} or {{final}} might be)
and doesn't have too much of a positive connotation that would lead people to choose it by
default like {{packed}} might have (except maybe for the absolute fans of the Disney movie,
but those deserve misery anyway imo). The only other uses that we're aware of is Ruby Object#freeze
(which as Jonathan points out is pretty close semantically) and Python's {{frozenset}}, which
is described in the python doc by: "The frozenset type is immutable and hashable -- its contents
cannot be altered after is created; however, it can be used as a dictionary key or as an element
of another set"; I would be hard-pressed to come with a better description for our issue.

So I've committed {{frozen<>}} and I'll start the vote on rc7 with that.

If we really find a keyword that is universally accepted as so much better in the coming days
and have strong regrets, there is always the possibility to add this new keyword as an alias
and make sure we use that new perfect keyword in all docs/conversations.


> Ability to froze UDT
> --------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-7857
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-7857
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Sylvain Lebresne
>            Assignee: Sylvain Lebresne
>             Fix For: 2.1.0
>
>         Attachments: 7857-v2.txt, 7857.txt
>
>
> Currently, UDT are serialized into a single value. For 3.0, we want to change that somewhat
and allow updating individual subfields: CASSANDRA-7423 (and ultimately, we'll probably allow
querying subpart of UDT to some extend). Also for 3.0, we want to allow some nesting of collections
(CASSANDRA-7826).
> However, migrating the currently serialized UDT would be challenging. Besides that, even
with nested collections, we probably won't be able to support nesting within map keys and
sets without serializing (at the very least, not initially). Also, it can be useful in some
specific case to have UDT or collections for PK columns, even if those are serialized.
> So we need a better way to distinguish when a composite types (collections & UDT)
are serialized (which imply you can't update subpart of the value, you have to rewrite it
fully) and when they are not. The suggestion is then to introduce a new keyword, {{frozen}},
to indicate that a type is serialized:
> {noformat}
> CREATE TYPE foo (a int, b int);
> CREATE TABLE bar (
>     k frozen<foo> PRIMARY KEY,
>     m map<frozen<set<int>>, text>
> )
> {noformat}
> A big advantage is that it makes the downside (you can't update the value without rewriting
it all) clear and upfront.
> Now, as of 2.1, we only support frozen UDT, and so we should make this clear by 1) adding
the frozen keyword and 2) don't allow use of UDT unless they are "frozen" (since that's all
we really support). This is what this ticket proposes to do. And this should be done in 2.1.0
or this will be a breaking change.
> We will have a follow-up ticket that will extend {{frozen}} to collection, but this is
less urgent since this will be strictly an improvement.
> I'll note that in term of syntax, {{serialized}} was suggested as an alternative to {{frozen}}.
I personally have a minor preference for {{serialized}} but it was argued that it had a "sequential"
connotation which {{frozen}} don't have. Changing that is still up for discussion, but we
need to reach a decision quickly.



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