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From Todd Pigram <t...@toddpigram.com>
Subject Re: Dynamic Scalable Template issue
Date Sat, 05 Sep 2015 11:45:19 GMT
Vadim

I have 3 other pools (1 XS6.2sp1 and 2x xs65sp1)  I have no issue with
these.

Based on the Design doc, what i was experiencing is by design. Ok I will
turn it off.

But now my question is, why on 4.3 I didn't have this issue but after
installing 4.3.0.2 it changed.

Was 4.3 broken or is 4.3.0.2? Will upgrading to CCP 4.5.1 will be better?

If this is truely by design, I will not be able to use dynamic scalable for
my windows instances

On Saturday, September 5, 2015, Vadim Kimlaychuk <vadim@kickcloud.net>
wrote:

> Todd,
>
>        You may try to create VM at XenServer without CloudStack just using
> XE tool (or XenCenter). If your manually created VM with static max <>
> dynamic max will be OK, then there is a problem with Cloudstack.
>
> Vadim.
>
> On 2015-09-04 21:51, Todd Pigram wrote:
>
> Latest as of XS62ESP1027. I know XS62ESP1028 comes with new XenTools.
>>
>> On Friday, September 4, 2015, Vadim Kimlaychuk <vadim@kickcloud.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am afraid this issue has nothing to do with Cloudstack. If VM "sees"
>> maximum memory size available instead of effective -- this is problem of
>> hypervisor and/or guest utilities. Do you have guest utilities that come
>> with XenServer version or older in your template?
>>
>> Vadim.
>>
>> On 2015-09-04 19:34, Todd Pigram wrote:
>>
>> Ok. After rebooting the instance still no change after disabling
>> globally. I modified all my templates to remove 'Dynamic Scalable', then I
>> have to
>> shutdown every instance and unselect 'Dynamic Scalable', then restart for
>> it to be correct.
>>
>> This may need to be looked at closer for a Windows/XenDesktop(XenApp)
>> environment as MS SQL will consume all the RAM windows sees.
>>
>> My other question is why CCP 4.3 (which is certified for Citrix Ready for
>> IaaS for XD) didn't have this issue until I upgraded to 4.3.0.2 in July.
>> This feature was released in 4.2.....
>>
>> Thanks for all the help.
>>
>> Todd Pigram
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>> [5]]> On
>> Sep 4, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Todd Pigram <todd@toddpigram.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Just funny that on CCP 4.3 it wasn't an issue and only after upgrading to
>> 4.3.0.2 and a host reboot did it change my instances.
>>
>> This issue is that the instance below is a SQL server. As Windows see
>> 32GB, it shows the used RAM in windows as 31.6GB. The Server only has 8GB.
>> That is what really is the issue. Causing slowness for my users.
>>
>> I have set 'enable.dynamic.scale.vm' to false and restarted
>> cloudstack-management. I will reboot an instance that is out of prod and
>> let you know the results.
>>
>> Todd Pigram
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>> Sep 4, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk <vadim@kickcloud.net <mailto:
>> vadim@kickcloud.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Todd,
>>
>> If I understood you correctly, you wonder why you have static max as 4x
>> of the offering, isn't it? This article should answer your question:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Dynamic+scaling+of+CPU+and+RAM#DynamicscalingofCPUandRAM-Xenserver
>> [6]
>> [5] <
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Dynamic+scaling+of+CPU+and+RAM#DynamicscalingofCPUandRAM-Xenserver
>> [6]
>> [5]>
>>
>> Look chapter for XenServer changes. As it is stated there: static max =
>> f_min (4 * service_offering) / memory_overprovisioning_of_cluster
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Vadim.
>>
>> On 2015-09-04 17:41, Todd Pigram wrote:
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has seen similar. I already have a case open.
>> But seeing if the forum has an answer?
>> Issue, Upgraded to CCP 4.3.0.2 back in July. Afterwards everything was
>> great. Hosts rebooted two weeks ago. Any instance built with a template
>> with Dynamic Scalable set to yes, shows in XenCenter as min/max memory as
>> what system offering is but has a Static Max of 4x the RAM.
>> Screen shot of instance built from template with Dynamic Scalable = yes
>>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8AoU3kQRQjZccdnUrrAIAXjKBWkv3JXG-X1pm5S52Ks?feat=directlink
>> [7]
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>> XenCenter of same instance
>>
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>> In Windows 2012r2 sees Static Max
>>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/AQ_xkMQhmBsJuKALKJ5vBnjKBWkv3JXG-X1pm5S52Ks?feat=directlink
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>> Now if I build a new w2012r2 template without Dynamic Scalable, it works
>> as it should. But I lose the ability to Dynamically scale.
>> Screenshots of instance built form template without Dynamic Scaling and
>> also in XC
>>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3DorqjATJilaUl-B1_7B_3jKBWkv3JXG-X1pm5S52Ks?feat=directlink
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>> Anyone aware if this is fixed in CCP/ACS 4.5.1? Has anyone seen this?
>> The XenServer Hosts are patched through XS62ESP1027.
>> Todd Pigram
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