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From Dag Sonstebo <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Remove el6 support in future CloudStack versions (was Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14)
Date Tue, 21 May 2019 09:52:30 GMT

Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect

On 21/05/2019, 10:40, "Rohit Yadav" <> wrote:

    Thank you for your feedback and discussions. From what we've discussed so far, we've lazy
consensus that nobody wants to use el6 or are limited to upgrade to el7/el8 due to potential
    Moving forward I put forth the following for voting:
    - Next minor/major releases (such as, will be last ones to support
el6 packaging both for the management server and KVM host, but users are discouraged from
using them
    - Next major release ( will document in its release notes that we'll stop supporting
centos6/rhel6 packaging in future versions, i.e. 4.14 and onwards
    - After is released, we will remove el6 related specs, packaging scripts etc.
from the codebase in the master branch
    [ ] +1 approve
    [ ] +0 no opinion
    [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
    ** PMCs kindly add binding to your votes, thanks.
    Rohit Yadav
    Software Architect, ShapeBlue
    From: Erik Weber <>
    Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 19:32
    To: dev
    Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14
    CentOS7 was released 5 years ago, upgrading is long overdue anyway.
    Realistically the next CloudStack release won't be out the door for
    another ~4-6 months either.
    On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:27 PM Ron Wheeler
    <> wrote:
    > According to
    > CentOS 6 EOL is 2020
    > CentOS 7 EOL is 2024
    > +1 for removing support for CentOS 6.
    > As Erik pointed out the sites running CentOS6 will have to move soon in
    > any event and it is probably better to do it now when there is still a
    > lot of current expertise and information available about how to do it
    > and how to make any changes to applications.
    > Upgrading in a project that is under your control is usually easier than
    > one forced on you by a security issue or an operational failure.
    > Ron
    > On 4/24/19 3:24 AM, Erik Weber wrote:
    > > As an operations guy I can understand the want for future updates and
    > > not upgrading, but with the release plan of RHEL/CentOS I don't find
    > > it feasible.
    > >
    > > RHEL6 is 8 years old (and is still running kernel 2.6!) and isn't
    > > scheduled to be fully EOL until 2024.
    > >
    > > It is true that upgrading requires some effort (and risk) from
    > > operators, but this is work they eventually have to do anyway, so it's
    > > not a matter of /if/ they have to do it, but rather when.
    > >
    > > It is also true that current CloudStack releases should continue to
    > > work, it's also possible that someone might back port future fixes to
    > > a RHEL6 compatible fork (you're more than welcome to).
    > >
    > > I'd vote +1 to remove support for el6 packaging.
    > >
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