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From Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] New default template
Date Mon, 08 Jun 2020 17:32:05 GMT
I agree with Paul - a single, well-configured one.

(Considering the Marvin tests are run using the current default template, I
think it might make sense to consider CentOS 7/8, bug again, just
my opinion)

On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 16:22, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> My 2 cents:
>
> The default template is not there for general or even production use, it’s
> there for people to 'kick the tires' and either see if CloudStack is what
> they want or check that their installation is generally OK.
>
> Therefore (IMO) the pre-requisites are:
>
> - small download size
> - compatibility across all of our supported hypervisors
> - compatibility with all CloudStack features; i.e. live memory and CPU
> addition, hot disk-pluging, live migrations which require hypervisor tools
> installed, passing of user-data, meta-data, ssh keys and password resets to
> the VM via VR and config-drive.
> - OS commands that users will be relatively familiar with.
> - ability to be leverage by Marvin tests to perform smoke and integration
> tests
>
> You know - the usual stuff...
>
> So that we know that the template should 'always work', I don't think that
> we should point to an upstream repo, but take an OS version, add/configure
> whatever is strictly required to meet our requirements, and keep in the
> CloudStack downloads.
>
> Ok, so more like $10 ..
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Angus
>
>
> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 3 London Bridge Street,  3rd floor, News Building, London  SE1 9SGUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrija Panic <andrija.panic@gmail.com>
> Sent: 03 June 2020 13:03
> To: users <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Cc: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>; Abhishek Kumar <
> Abhishek.Kumar@shapeblue.com>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] New default template
>
> Whatever is a choosen as the new one, needs to be compatible with ALL the
> current hypervisor we support (i. e. VMware 6.0 and up, XenServer 7.0 and
> up and KVM of various flavours).
> So that needs to be taken into consideration when speaking about exotic
> OS-es or even the newest ones (Ubuntu 20/CentOS 8) to find a proper OS
> mappings on hypervisor side that will allow it to run normally.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, 12:21 , <nux@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to restate my previous stance on this which is - if not to
> > have a proper "market place" of trusted and tested templates - at
> > least to cover the popular ones.
> > The basics imho would be CentOS and Ubuntu, with this we cover 99% of
> > the user requirements.
> > I'd propose to go with the latest and greatest of both, Ubuntu 20.04
> > and
> > CentOS8 respectively (supported 2029).
> > I can repurpose the current build machine for openvm.eu and "donate"
> > it to the project so it's not a "third party" any more.
> >
> > my 2 pence
> >
> > On 2020-06-03 08:58, Abhishek Kumar wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I would like to hear everyone's opinion on a new default template in
> > > CloudStack.
> > > Currently, we are using CentOS 5.x for different hypervisors but it
> > > is quite old(already completed its support life) and either the
> > > support for it has been removed
> > > (https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/Guest-System-Support) or in
> > > legacy (
> > https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCatego
> > ry=software&details=1&partner=272&releases=448&page=1&display_interval
> > =10&sortColumn=Partner&sortOrder=Asc&testConfig=16
> > )
> > > in different hypervisors.
> > > Therefore, I think it is time now to move to a newer OS template. In
> > > my understanding CentOS7 is the minimum viable choice if we are
> > > continuing with CentOS. This can be the preferred choice as we
> > > already have tested templates for it on different hypervisors and it
> > > has 4 years left in its cycle.
> > >
> > > We can also explore Ubuntu’s cloud-images of 20.04. And if we want
> > > to go with something very light-weight we can think about something
> > > like Alpine Linux.
> > >
> > > Please have your say. Also, do you think this can be included in
> > > 4.15 itself so we can have a proper default template for something
> > > like XCP-ng 8.x which doesn't support CentOS 5 (and PV VMs)?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Abhishek
> > >
> > >
> > > Abhishek.Kumar@shapeblue.com
> > > www.shapeblue.com
> > > 3 London Bridge Street,  3rd floor, News Building, London  SE1 9SGUK
> > > @shapeblue
> >
>


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Andrija Panić

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