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From "Robert Koberg" <>
Subject Re: develop content management system
Date Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:25:39 GMT
RE: develop content management systemyou should sign up at:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Perrin" <>
> > OK.  Here is the link to the site:
> >
> >
> > Go to and click on GROUPS, not CLUBS.  Clubs is going
> >
> > There is also a list serve to which you can subscribe:
> >
> > is the email address.
> >
> > I hope all interested parties join up.  I am going to put together a
> of
> > discussion topics.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Manning 
  To: '' 
  Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:12 PM
  Subject: RE: develop content management system


  I too am interested in development of a content management system. >From reading the
posts on this subject, the general feeling is that content management systems developed so
far, have missed the point. 

  IMHO cms's are most useful in an intranet scenario where many people would like to contribute
information but give up becaue it is all to hard. CMS on an internet site really needs to
have a number of control mechanisms implemented as you don't want anyone adding information
to a publicly accessible site (workflow management). 

  I don't think that we should create yet another simpletons web editor. There is ample evidence
of these systems around already and I believe that they ultimately miss the point. If I was
to put forward a design goal as to what is needed, I would have to say that there is a huge
need for a system that separates the storage of content in its many forms (documents, web
pages, images, data sources) from there physical storage locations (and navigation paths)
and ultimately the way that this content can be manipulated into new and value added ways.
A simple example would be to allow people to use a word processor to generate content (something
most people are comfortable with) and save it into a 'system' that can then extract this information
and (for example) merge it into a web based display with other similar information. Add to
this the ability to navigate to the same content from different navigation paths and you start
to create a powerful paradigm that is yet to be done really well and make many peoples lives
easier. Versioning of content, workflow management in the creation and approval of conent
are other area's that need work to.

  Just a thought :) 

  Stephen Manning 

  -----Original Message----- 
  From: [] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:57 
  Subject: Re: develop content management system 

  Concerning a CMS based on Cocoon: 

  You might check out Wyona which is a CMS based on Cocoon. 

  The bin (war) and src version can be downloaded from 

  Many people are already working on this system. Maybe we are 
  able to bundle our resources. 

  Thanks and all the best 


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