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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
Date Wed, 22 May 2002 14:13:31 GMT
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>My e-mail is for pointing out that all our actions should be done only for
>the improvement of cocoon. We all love cocoon: I have seen some people's
>names for almost two years in the Cooon User List.
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Dude, using Cocoon commercially for your own benifit, benefits Cocoon. 
 Writing a book and keeping the measly profit (that is in no way 
adequate compensation for the time and effort taken to write such a 
book), seriously benefits Cocoon.

>If the book, as I hope, is published for promoting Cocoon, for improving it,
>well I am proud to know Carsten and Matthew and I applaud them.
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And I hope they make some serious Benjamins (or whatever the appropriate 
European slang term is for cash) in the process.  Though fat chance of that.

Don't get GNU-brainwashed, not everyone believes benefitting financially 
from opensource is immoral.

-Andy

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>Marco
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>Software engineer  Spinetti Marco
>Italy
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Konstantin Piroumian" <kpiroumian@apache.org>
>To: <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:36 PM
>Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
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>>From: "marco spinetti" <m.spinetti@pisa.iol.it>
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>>>One question: is the profit for the apache software foundation (ASF)?
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>>>If not, in my opinion it's against the open source apache philosophy.
>>>
>>>Cocoon is borned as open source project and then all is free.
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>>Yes, you don't pay to use Cocoon. But nobody prevents you to provide
>>commersial support for it. More over, if I understand the Apache license
>>correctly: you can even modify it and distribute if the license conditions
>>are met.
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>>>Are you a member of people that created Cocoon?
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>>Don't tell this to Carsten Ziegeler [cziegeler@s-und-n.de] - Cocoon's
>>Release Manager - who is the co-author of the book. And Matthew Langham
>>[mlangham@s-und-n.de] is his boss, if my information is correct, aren't
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>you
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>>Matthew? ;).
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>>>Have you received the assent from ASF or people as Stefano Mazzocchi?
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>>>If yes all is ok, otherwise in my opinion you are speculating on Cocoon.
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>>Hm... In this case we are all speculating on Cocoon: one uses it to make
>>easier his paid work, another one to get some profit from consulting, the
>>thirds are writing books and every usage of Cocoon directly or indirectly
>>pays back to the community by promoting Cocoon, improving it, etc.
>>
>>Konstantin
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>>>Marco
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>>>+---------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>Software engineer  Spinetti Marco
>>>Italy
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>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Langham" <mlangham@s-und-n.de>
>>>To: <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:02 AM
>>>Subject: RE: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
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>>>
>>>Hi Paul
>>>
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>>>By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that
>>>accurate?
>>><<
>>>Yes.
>>>
>>>Matthew
>>>
>>>--
>>>Open Source Group       Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects }
>>>=================================================================
>>>Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
>>>Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 mlangham@s-und-n.de - http://www.s-und-n.de
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Cocoon book:
>>>  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20
>>>=================================================================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Paul Chisholm [mailto:paulch@bigpond.com]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:54 AM
>>>To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>>>Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
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>>>
>>>Hi Matthew,
>>>
>>>I'm new to Cocoon but have many years software engineering experience. I
>>>assume your book is of an introductory nature and, if so, I would be
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>keen
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>>to
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>>>review some chapters.
>>>
>>>By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that
>>>accurate?
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Langham" <mlangham@s-und-n.de>
>>>To: <cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org>; <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:35 PM
>>>Subject: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>together with our publisher (www.newriders.com), we are looking for
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>>people
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>>>>interested in reviewing chapters from our book. Hopefully you will
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>have
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>>>>something positive to say and then your quote may be used in the book
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>or
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>>>to
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>>>>promote it.
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>>>>If you would be interested then please send me an email. Please note
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>>that
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>>>we
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>>>>will only be able to suggest (!!) reviewers - our publisher will
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>choose.
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>>>And
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>>>>probably only a few of those in the end.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Matthew
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Open Source Group       Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects }
>>>>=================================================================
>>>>Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
>>>>Tel:+49-5251-1581-30  mlangham@s-und-n.de - http://www.s-und-n.de
>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>Cocoon book:
>>>>  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20
>>>>=================================================================
>>>>
>>>>
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