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From "Joseph Jupin" <joe.ju...@fe77.com>
Subject Re: Web Site Construction Patterns?
Date Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:03:37 GMT
I believe the author was interested in design patterns.  not 
specifically L&F designs...  just my take on his posting...

peace.  JOe...

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:56:24 -0700
  "Robert Koberg" <rob@koberg.com> wrote:
>I think you want this site:
>
>http://www.oswd.org
>
>-Rob
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "daniel robinson" <drob@dnai.com>
>To: <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
>Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:24 PM
>Subject: Re: Web Site Construction Patterns?
>
>
>> Argyn,
>>
>> Thanks for the link.  I had forgotten about ServerSide.  They're 
>>patterns
>are
>> pretty specific to Client/Server-J2EE-EJB apps.  I did find *some*
>patterns
>> for the web after poking around.  However, I think there 
>>could/should be a
>> better repository.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Argyn Kuketayev wrote:
>>
>> > check www.theserverside.com
>> >
>> > they have many patterns there.
>> >
>> > unfortunately, they are biased towards J2EE too heavily. their Web 
>>site
>is
>> > build with EJBs, btw, you can feel that with it performance :)
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: daniel robinson [mailto:drob@dnai.com]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:54 PM
>> > > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>> > > Subject: Web Site Construction Patterns?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > All,
>> > >
>> > > I hope this is the right place for this topic,  Please let me 
>>know if
>> > > not.
>> > >
>> > > I have just completed a basic framework (high-level) for a
>> > > Website that
>> > > I am working on.  I am an experienced programmer but this is the 
>>first
>> > > time that I have done any extensive work in
>> > > HTML/XML/XSLT/Servelets.  I
>> > > am impressed by Cocoon and it seems like a great product to
>> > > be building
>> > > my site with.
>> > >
>> > > It occurs to me as I work on this project that there everything 
>>I am
>> > > doing has been done before, lots of times.  Of course that is 
>>what
>> > > Cocoon is addressing - at different levels.  I am finding
>> > > myself haviing
>> > > to make many decisions as I move ahead.  Since I am a
>> > > complete Newbie I
>> > > have little or no reference point for making these decisions.
>> > >  What I'm
>> > > wondering is whether or not Patterns could help?
>> > >
>> > > Let me give an example.  I have to have user
>> > > sessions/authentication/permissions/profiles.  Nothing new
>> > > here.  I have
>> > > even done extensive work on this in other realms.  I am
>> > > familiar with a
>> > > number of Patterns for accomplishing this in my experience and I 
>>can
>> > > plow ahead and see what works.  I know, for example, that there 
>>is
>> > > extensive ongoing work within the Cocoon project (Sunshine?)
>> > > that works
>> > > on this.  So from my experience so far with Cocoon what it
>> > > will mean is
>> > > that I have to jump into a description of the features that
>> > > are offered
>> > > and a descirption of how it works.  Then I will have to make
>> > > a decision
>> > > to use it or not based on what I understand my requirements
>> > > to be.  What
>> > > I would really like would be a mid to high level collection
>> > > of Patterns
>> > > for dealing with these features and then a mapping of those 
>>Patterns
>> > > onto what Cocoon offers and doesn't offer.
>> > >
>> > > My premise is that if I could access this knowledge base it 
>>would make
>> > > my work easier as well as serving as a guidepost for Cocoon
>> > > itself.  (We
>> > > have implemented parts of x Pattern for the following 
>>reasons....)
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone know of an effort to capture these sorts of
>> > > "Patterns of Web
>> > > Development" in an organized manner?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Dan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 
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peace.  JOe...

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