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From Andre Juffer <andre.juf...@oulu.fi>
Subject Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2
Date Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:39:30 GMT
Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
> On 10/sep/09, at 15:05, Ellis Pritchard wrote:
>
>> Lamentable indeed.
>>
>> Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, 
>> after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon 
>> using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of 
>> lines of horrible java to do stuff cocoon did for free, I realize how 
>> much I miss the simple power of the platform. For XML content, there 
>> is simply nothing better.
>>
>> 2.2 really should have been finished: user docs, the halfway house 
>> between spring and Avalon, missing blocks (eventcache anyone?)... 
>> it's all so close and yet so far.
>>
>> I'd love to get involved in polishing this stuff, but I've never 
>> really been part of the 'community', just finding and reporting 
>> tricky defects!
>>
>> Is there any interest out there for futher work on 2.2?
>
> I am.

I am as well. It would be a shame if cocoon would not be developed 
further. It is really a great platform!
>
>> On 10 Sep 2009, at 12:56, David Legg <david.legg@searchevent.co.uk 
>> <mailto:david.legg@searchevent.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>>> I'm just about to embark on a new project... I'd like to use Cocoon 
>>>> 2.2 for this, but I'm concerned about the apparent lack of support 
>>>> for it.
>>>
>>> It is true that Cocoon has hit a low point at the moment and I'm 
>>> sure many of us wonder if it will ever recover.  Many of the 
>>> original contributors have moved on to other things and officially 
>>> version 2 (and 2.2) are in 'maintenance mode'.  Version 3 is still 
>>> being worked on but to be honest it looks so different that you will 
>>> be starting again from scratch compared to version 2.
>>>
>>> It's a great shame as I really thought version 2.2 was beginning to 
>>> gain traction.
>>>
>>>> Can anyone suggest any resources that will help me get started with 
>>>> Cocoon 2.2?
>>>
>>> I would archive that book on version 2!  It will be of little use to 
>>> you when working with 2.2.
>>>
>>> Most of the useful documentation can be found here: -
>>>
>>> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/2.2/1159_1_1.html
>>>
>>> But you should be aware that this is the 'published' version of the 
>>> documentation.  It may be the case that the 'unpublished' versions 
>>> are more up to date.  To get to them you can click on the link at 
>>> the bottom of the page where it mentions 'Errors and Improvements'. 
>>>  This link will take you to the Daisy CMS which is what Cocoon 
>>> members use to write and edit documentation before it gets published.
>>>
>>> Yes!... It is a horrible mess and I have commented about this before 
>>> but was persuaded it was for the best.
>>>
>>>> I'm concerned that interest in and support for Cocoon is dying out. 
>>>> Would I be better off choosing a completely different technology 
>>>> for my project?
>>>
>>> I would say think seriously before you commit another year or two of 
>>> your life to learning it!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> David Legg
>
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