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From Francesco Chicchiriccò <francesco.chicchiri...@everett.it>
Subject Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2
Date Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:21:57 GMT
On 10/sep/09, at 15:05, Ellis Pritchard wrote:

> Lamentable indeed.
>
> Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2,  
> after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon  
> using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of  
> lines of horrible java to do stuff cocoon did for free, I realize  
> how much I miss the simple power of the platform. For XML content,  
> there is simply nothing better.
>
> 2.2 really should have been finished: user docs, the halfway house  
> between spring and Avalon, missing blocks (eventcache anyone?)...  
> it's all so close and yet so far.
>
> I'd love to get involved in polishing this stuff, but I've never  
> really been part of the 'community', just finding and reporting  
> tricky defects!
>
> Is there any interest out there for futher work on 2.2?

I am.

> On 10 Sep 2009, at 12:56, David Legg <david.legg@searchevent.co.uk>  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>>> I'm just about to embark on a new project... I'd like to use  
>>> Cocoon 2.2 for this, but I'm concerned about the apparent lack of  
>>> support for it.
>>
>> It is true that Cocoon has hit a low point at the moment and I'm  
>> sure many of us wonder if it will ever recover.  Many of the  
>> original contributors have moved on to other things and officially  
>> version 2 (and 2.2) are in 'maintenance mode'.  Version 3 is still  
>> being worked on but to be honest it looks so different that you  
>> will be starting again from scratch compared to version 2.
>>
>> It's a great shame as I really thought version 2.2 was beginning to  
>> gain traction.
>>
>>> Can anyone suggest any resources that will help me get started  
>>> with Cocoon 2.2?
>>
>> I would archive that book on version 2!  It will be of little use  
>> to you when working with 2.2.
>>
>> Most of the useful documentation can be found here: -
>>
>> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/2.2/1159_1_1.html
>>
>> But you should be aware that this is the 'published' version of the  
>> documentation.  It may be the case that the 'unpublished' versions  
>> are more up to date.  To get to them you can click on the link at  
>> the bottom of the page where it mentions 'Errors and  
>> Improvements'.  This link will take you to the Daisy CMS which is  
>> what Cocoon members use to write and edit documentation before it  
>> gets published.
>>
>> Yes!... It is a horrible mess and I have commented about this  
>> before but was persuaded it was for the best.
>>
>>> I'm concerned that interest in and support for Cocoon is dying  
>>> out. Would I be better off choosing a completely different  
>>> technology for my project?
>>
>> I would say think seriously before you commit another year or two  
>> of your life to learning it!
>>
>> Regards,
>> David Legg

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