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From "Paulo Gaspar" <paulo.gas...@krankikom.de>
Subject RE: [Logging] default log level
Date Wed, 09 Jan 2002 20:32:48 GMT
> INFO it is ;-)  (Man, changing the mind is too easy sometimes)

LOL!!!

You followed EXACTLY my reasoning steps!
=:o)


BTW, my name is Paulo, (PaUlo with an "u"). Paolo is the Italian
version. This strange spelling is Portuguese.

I assure I do not get offended or something, I just prefer the original
version.
=:o)

Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Sanders [mailto:ssanders@nextance.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:22 PM
>
>
> Agree, and that has been done now.  But let's use Digester as an
> example. The issue that I have is that by default when I plug Digester
> into my project, I think that I would just want to trust that it works
> and move on (ie ERROR by default), but some take the other approach of
> logging a lot and then forcing the developer to set it explictly to a
> lesser level.
>
> I can see either.  If I am a newbie stuffing Digester into something,
> then maybe INFO is the way to go, by making them understand how to turn
> it off, they learn that it actually has this functionality, whereas if
> it was at ERROR by default, they might even start stuffing
> System.out.println()s everywhere to get it to work.
>
> If I am an experienced Digester user, I just want to plug it.  But on
> the other hand, I am probably using Log4J/LogKit and have the default
> configured there (ERROR for me).
>
> OK, I convinced myself, with Paolo's help.  INFO shows that the
> component is working, forcing the user to think about how to turn it
> off.
>
> INFO it is ;-)  (Man, changing the mind is too easy sometimes)
> Scott
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:34 AM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: RE: [Logging] default log level
> >
> >
> > Or maybe some "INFO" log calls in Digester should become
> > "DEBUG" calls.
> >
> > This is the kind of change I usually end up making in my code
> > when I see those symptoms.
> >
> > INFO should show that important things are really running and
> > important options, not that ALL things are running and all options!
> > =;o)
> >
> >
> > Have fun,
> > Paulo Gaspar
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:ssanders@nextance.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:27 PM
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > > Subject: RE: [Logging] default log level
> > >
> > >
> > > After using Digester last night at the INFO level, I would actually
> > > say that INFO is indeed to high a level as a default.  I would say
> > > either WARN or ERROR.
> > >
> > > Scott
> >
> >
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