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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <>
Subject Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
Date Fri, 01 Feb 2002 22:31:39 GMT
On 2/1/02 5:20 PM, "Peter Donald" <> wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 08:48, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>> Peter probably has nothing to do with some of the server components in
>>> Avalon, but he has a binding vote for them.  How is that resolved?  That
>>> is the same problem.
>>  I don't know enough about Avalon and Peter's role.  Doesn't seem to be the
>> same problem if they are making a coherent server framework.
> Avalon is no more or less coherent than Commons.

Really - you are saying that the parts of Avalon have no organized
relationship?  Or that the relationships are *exactly equal* to that of the
organized relationships in Commons?

>> We aren't, right?
> Thats the theory...
>>>> I don't think there is *any* downside to that model, as
>>>> people who are committed and interested and want a role in a
>>>> component will get involved in what I understand the
>>>> traditional Apache/Jakarta way is...
>>> There is not a downside to that model, IMHO.  That would have worked
>>> fine as well.  But I do think that Commons has an advantage with the
>>> sandbox and the diverse group of committers.
>> Both of which you would get with the common model - everyone has rights in
>> the sandbox (it's one singular CVS) and they are still as diverse a
>> community as they are now.
> privlidge to CVS != privlidge to vote
> Besides theres no formal voting infrastructure for sandbox I thought they
> were run like revolutions?

?  I don't follow.

What I was saying is that Commons could still retain the sandbox as a "no
voting, no releasing, do what you want with who you want" work area...

Geir Magnusson Jr.                           
System and Software Consulting
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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