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From "Berin Loritsch" <>
Subject RE: [logging] Need interface...
Date Wed, 03 Apr 2002 20:04:28 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Sitze [] 
> I went round-and-round with Berin a few months ago before he 
> convinced me on this point.  The LogKit API provides a simple 
> framework based on IoC that "wraps" various loggers.  It 
> became clear that adding the popularly used "pull" (Log4J,  
> JDK 1.4, and other loggers) model to the Avalon LogKit was 
> counter to their design goals.  At about the same time the 
> commons logging API was released.
> Perhaps what we need is pointers (in both components) to the 
> logger supporting the "other" philosophy:
> If you want "pull", use commons logging.
> If you want "push" and IoC, use the Avalon LogKit.
> And again, DON'T propose trying to merge the two, their goals 
> are orthogonal.

Err, "goals are" antagonistic.  (orthagonal simply means unnassociated,
can go either way).

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