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From "Paulo Gaspar" <>
Subject RE: [pool] PROPOSAL: add collecting of statistics to pool implementations
Date Sat, 27 Apr 2002 18:31:35 GMT
Why does chronology matter?

There are many bits and pieces that were fully developed in Avalon
before they were in the commons, and that does NOT matter either.

Commons and Avalon just have different targets:
 - Loose components for the commons;
 - Framework for Avalon.

And which is better is a religious matter, we have people of both 
faiths and it is better to have two "temples" than a religious 

The focus should NOT be on "I did it first" or "I am the original 
and you are the plagiarist". The focus should be the opposite:

  Lets copy and learn what we can from each other so that both 
  groups can reach their different targets as efficiently as 

Leave the "I did it first" to the corporate politics. This is 
Open Source.

Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Waldhoff, Rodney []
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:41 PM
> To: ''Jakarta Commons Developers List' '
> Subject: RE: [pool] PROPOSAL: add collecting of statistics to pool
> implementations
> > I will certainly take a look at 
> > Avalon. So why is there a commons pool
> > and commons dbcp if Avalon does the 
> > same and more?
> I think it's the "and more" part.
> I do notice that Avalon's org.apache.avalon.excalibur.pool.* has 
> existed for
> about a month, according to CVS, so perhaps the question should be turned
> the other way.

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