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From "Tim O'Brien" <>
Subject RE: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang
Date Thu, 03 Jun 2004 04:23:53 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Colebourne [] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:24 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [lang] Re: cvs commit: 
> jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang
> > I'm confused -- why shouldn't a class in [lang] have 
> dependencies to 
> > other classes in [lang]?  Isn't this taking things too far??
> Its part of [lang] being broad and shallow. In effect, [lang] 
> is a loose grouping of APIs in a similar vein. As such it 
> should be easily broken into many parts.
> ie. a user should be able to come along and take one class (wherever
> possible) and paste it into their own CVS/project.
> Think of it as a single class jar file. [lang] just provides 
> a home for it without needing the additional jar packaging.
> Stephen

I can't say I agree with this POV, but I do think that it needs a more
formal fleshing out than a Re: thread for a CVS commit.  

I can see the benefit of reducing dependencies among different projects, but
I don't see a good rationale for not having Validate use StringUtils and/or
ArrayUtils.  I'm not of the opinion that we should increase the effort of
maintaining common components because there are people who cut/paste code
into separate projects.  



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