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From Richard Sitze <>
Subject Re: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?
Date Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:15:15 GMT
Good points.  Please consider:

a.  There are logging implementations today, I believe, that can accept 
this information.

b.  Consider AspectJ as an enabler of such methods, as opposed to an 

c.  I'm not fluent in AspectJ terminology, so forgive any mistakes... but 
I see this as an opportunity for someone to submit AspectJ rule(s) that 
support this type of logging for both commons logging 1.0.x and for the 
new proposal.  No reason AspectJ can't make use of these methods on the 
Log interface.   Doing so would keep the logging consistent with whatever 
we map commons-logging to.

e.  In the absence of such rules, and for those who do not yet feel that 
AspectJ is "usable" in their production environments [and these DO exist], 
it would be better if the code were instrumented using more traditional 


Paulo Gaspar <> wrote on 12/10/2004 01:03:47 PM:

> I agree. Aspect oriented tools obsolete the need for this kind of 
> logging method.
> Paulo Gaspar
> David Graham wrote:
> >--- simon <> wrote:
> ><snip> 
> > 
> >
> >I would personally never use the enter/exit methods for those reasons. 
> >I wanted that kind of detail, I would use AspectJ.
> >
> >David
> > 
> >
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