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From Mark Proctor <>
Subject Re: [logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]
Date Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:51:56 GMT
We've been discussing the logging issue over in the Drools world. We 
have decided not to fight against this, at some point or other as we 
grow our capabilities and depend more on third party libraries we are 
going to find a tool that insists on commons logging - so might as well 
be now. Atleast JCI will only be used at  rulebase creation time and 
won't touch any of the core code. But the idea of stubs sounds good, 
especially if its small and users can just rip it into their own jars 
and namespace and thus avoid extra external dependencies.

Torsten Curdt wrote:
>> I also talked about removing the commons-logging dependency (which 
>> seemed to be in agreeance at the time),
>> as at least in our environment we don't use it.
> The more I think about this the more I get the opinion we should
> also provide a commons-logging-stub.jar to satisfy commons-logging
> dependencies if you don't like to use it.
> I know there has been put quite some effort in fixing CL
> but I fear fixing the reputation is a different issue.
> Can a new release of CL rule out all the classloading problems
> people had before?
> cheers
> -- 
> Torsten

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