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From Antoine Levy-Lambert <>
Subject Re: Commons as a sponsor for Sanselan?
Date Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:14:27 GMT
Hello Jochen and Carsten,

I have a different experience.

Ant has sponsored ivy, which is a relatively new project in the incubator.

A project coming in to the incubator with a sponsoring project already
in Apache-Land gets accepted nearly automatically.

For ivy, the Ant PMC voted a resolution according to which Ant was
sponsoring the incubation of Ivy.

We decided if I remember properly that Ivy would be free after
graduation from incubation to become its own TLP or to become a
subproject of Ant.

So probably it is OK to say that we would welcome sanselan as a sub
project but not to say that sun or rain sanselan will become a commons
subproject after graduation.

Otherwise I looked at the web site of sanselan, this looks like an
interesting development that we would like to have in Apache Land. Just
my two cents.


Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> On 8/17/07, Carsten Ziegeler <> wrote:
>> It seems that general thinking is to start sanselan as a sub project of
>> commons. So, my question is now, if commons is interested to become
>> the sponsor of the sanselan project?
> Carsten,
> as far as I know, the Incubator does neither depend on a sponsoring
> project (in fact, from experience I'd recommend that you avoid a
> sponsoring project, because it means that you've got to deal with only
> one PMC while being in the incubator :-) nor is the incubated projects
> target assumed to be final.
> I'd personally also believe that the relation with projects outside
> Commons would be much closer (for example, xmlgraphics, or the content
> generation frameworks), but I wouldn't mind if it lives here.
> Jochen

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