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From Benedikt Ritter <>
Subject Re: [SCXML] knock knock?
Date Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:44:51 GMT
Hello Ate,

we are going through some discussions at the moment about how we want to
organize development at commons in the future [1].
We are always looking for people that want to contribute so I see no reason
why you shouldn't dig right into the code.

Regarding the reviewing: I don't now the SCXML spec, so I may not be the
best one to review this kind of contributions.
But we'll find a way to push SCXML forward.

Nice that you've joint us.


2013/10/7 Ate Douma <>

> Hi SCXML developers/community,
> We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
> development is, and and/or who in the community might be interested in
> re-activating it.
> From the mailing lists and JIRA activity we gather not much has been
> happening here for a very long time: the last release 0.9 dates back to
> December 2008 and the last serious code commits to June 2011...
> Looking back through the history of SCXML, Rahul Akolkar was and pretty
> much still is the only maintainer of the code but seemingly no longer able
> or willing to contribute much anymore.
> So, what to do with Commons SCXML?
> To put it bluntly, we would very much like to revive the development of
> SCXML again.
> We are working for Hippo (Open Source CMS vendor) and intend to start
> using SCXML as state machine engine in our product shortly.
> As the latest release is so old, and based on only Java 1.4, we're looking
> into using the Java 6 (J6) branch instead. But this branch is still 'work
> in progress' without any release (but targeted at next major version 1.0).
> This J6/1.0 branch AFAIK is intended to cover the final SCXML
> specification [1], but already running quite a bit behind the latest draft
> of that specification. However, this being a W3C specification, having to
> wait for it to become final before releasing a next major version of
> Commons SCXML seems very counter-productive to me...
> Both myself and Woonsan are Apache committers on several other ASF
> projects for quite some time, so we know 'how it works'. We would like to
> get out hands dirty, start contributing on Commons SCXML, and help move it
> forward towards a more current release.
> But the question is: is there still anyone out here willing to pick up and
> review contributions, discuss stuff, etc.
> Hopefully Rahul can chime in (if still listening) and let us know what his
> ideas and plans are, or else maybe other active members of the Commons
> community?
> As a minimum we would like to get a Java 6+ compatible version released
> soon, maybe as a first milestone release towards 1.0, and incrementally add
> (more) compliance to the current SCXML specification.
> For this we propose to 'archive' the current stalled trunk (move it to a
> 0.xx branch or something), promote the current J6 branch to trunk, and then
> take it from there. Website and documentation fixes would be next to pick
> up and straighten out and updating the current Maven build. Possibly drop
> the outdated Ant build as well if nobody really is using or dependening on
> it anyway.
> As said, we're willing to step up here, but as non committers for Apache
> Commons we do need a 'handle' to get stuff moving again.
> Thanks, Ate & Woonsan
> [1]
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