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From Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.0 based on RC3
Date Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:48:58 GMT
Ahh, I managed to forget to close the staging repo. Now done; thanks Bene!

Matt


On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org> wrote:

>
>
>
> 2014-03-15 8:18 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com>:
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Niall Pemberton
>> <niall.pemberton@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > 2014-03-12 13:37 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>:
>> >> >
>> >> > > [X] -1 I oppose this release because...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I'm sorry to say but it is not possible to tell how to use this
>> >> > components
>> >> > > by looking at the site.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The text descriptions could not be more terse and is devoid of
>> >> examples.
>> >> > > Finding the modules requires drilling down the site. The modules
>> AND
>> >> > > examples should be listed in the main menu. Preferably a user
docs
>> >> page
>> >> > > should exist.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Drilling down to the privilizer example source xref [1] is not
>> helpful
>> >> > > since the code has no comments.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > There appears to be a hierarchy of modules which is only
>> discoverable
>> >> by
>> >> > > drilling down the whole site. For example, on
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> https://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/commons-weaver-processor/index.html
>> >> > >
>> >> > > there are two modules with the exact same kind of description
and
>> no
>> >> > guide
>> >> > > lines for when to use which one, unless you guess by the name
of
>> >> course
>> >> > ;)
>> >> > > No good enough IMO.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The page starts with "This module provides the
>> >> > > org.apache.commons:commons-weaver artifact." which are Maven
>> concepts
>> >> > > related to building Weaver itself or installing it for use in
your
>> >> > > IDE/editor. This shows to me that the docs need a "Building" and
>> >> > > "Installing" section like some other sites have which tell you
how
>> to
>> >> do
>> >> > > just that, building and installing.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I do not see how this component can be released without telling
>> folks
>> >> how
>> >> > > to use it!
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > We're still voting on source code here. The site is only a nice to
>> have
>> >> > imho. If you find yourself unable to verify the release (because you
>> can
>> >> > not tell how to use the component), from my PoV a -0 would be
>> >> appropriate.
>> >> > But casting a veto because the website is incomplete doesn't fit into
>> >> the
>> >> > "release early, release often" credo we have agreed upon.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bear in mind, releases cannot be vetoed. ;)
>> >
>> >
>> >  Doesn't seem like Gary is asking for much. Is it not possible to
>> improve
>> > the website and achieve a consensus?
>> >
>> > Of course it is possible, but it's not necessarily quick or "not much."
>> One thing Gary has asked for is a "building" section. There is such a page
>> linked from the root of [weaver]'s site. He has asked for installation
>> instructions, which--lo and behold--are visible under the heading
>> "Integration" on the front page of the [weaver] site. I admit to having
>> let
>> his request for a FAQ about the relationship between [weaver] and
>> BCEL/ASM/Javassist slip my mind. I have expressed full willingness to
>> improve the site, but since writing technical documentation is quite
>> apparently a skill beyond my grasp, I'd love a little help or at least
>> patience in that regard. Apache is supposed to be about community, but
>> it's
>> also supposed to be about doocracy. I've been fetching rocks on this
>> project for a _year_ now in my ever-diminishing spare time, to the
>> detriment of other ASF TLPs that could have been using it. When is the
>> last
>> time we've released a new Commons component? How many committers have we
>> lost over the years due to our excessive navel-gazing? Come to that, where
>> have you been for the past year or so, Niall? I have tried to retain a
>> positive outlook for this community, but like so many others my patience
>> is
>> wearing thin. Please try to contain your collective shock when you don't
>> see me bringing anything else new to Commons.
>>
>> FWIW, my +1 to the release. I'll keep the vote open until I get another
>> binding +1 or I somehow manage to blindly stumble onto what it is people
>> are looking for.
>>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I intended to review RC3 today but I keep getting "404 -
> ItemNotFoundException" when I try to access the staging repo. Can you help?
>
> Benedikt
>
>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> > Niall
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>  Matt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > The website can
>> >> > always be tweaked and republished.
>> >> >
>> >> > Having said that, I'll not have the time until friday to review this
>> RC
>> >> > myself :o)
>> >> >
>> >> > Benedikt
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Gary
>> >> > >
>> >> > > [1]
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> https://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/commons-weaver-modules-parent/commons-weaver-normalizer-parent/commons-weaver-normalizer-example/xref/index.html
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Matt Benson <mbenson@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Apache Commons Weaver 1.0 RC3 is available for review at:
>> >> > > >   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/weaver/(r4624).
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Maven artifacts are at:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1018/
>> >> > > >  .
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Tested with Oracle JDKs 6, 7 and 8.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The Subversion tag is:
>> >> > > >
>> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/weaver/tags/1.0_RC3/
>> >> > > >  (r1576397).
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Site:
>> >> > > >
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/index.html
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > RAT Report:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/rat-report.html
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Keys: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/commons/KEYS
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Changes since RC2:
>> >> > > >  - Configured project to run a single all-inclusive RAT report
>> >> > > >  - Added missing license headers
>> >> > > >  - Included issueManagement in POM (and thus in generated
site)
>> >> > > >  - Documented resulting need for expanded permgen when generating
>> >> site
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Changes since RC1:
>> >> > > >  - Removed -dist suffix from distribution files
>> >> > > >  - Added release notes to binary distribution
>> >> > > >  - Included project-specific LICENSE.txt and NOTICE.txt in
jar
>> >> > artifacts
>> >> > > >  - Restricted checkstyle to run only for relevant modules
>> >> > > >  - Fixed remaining checkstyle errors
>> >> > > >  - Improved (somewhat) overview documentation
>> >> > > >  - Removed license header from release notes
>> >> > > >  - Added FindBugs and PMD reporting
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Please review the release candidate and vote.
>> >> > > >   This vote will close no sooner that 72 hours from now,
i.e.
>> after
>> >> > > 0000UTC
>> >> > > > 15-March 2014
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >   [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
>> >> > > >   [ ] +0 OK, but...
>> >> > > >   [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
>> >> > > >   [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >   Thanks!
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
>> >> > > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition<
>> >> > > http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
>> >> > > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
>> >> > > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
>> >> > > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>> >> > > Home: http://garygregory.com/
>> >> > > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> > http://www.systemoutprintln.de/
>> >> > http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter
>> >> > http://github.com/britter
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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