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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: commons-parent maven pom highly broken?
Date Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:13:17 GMT
File a JIRA with exact details.

On 13 December 2014 at 18:03, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Sebb: when trying to release jcs I had a lot of trouble just because
> [commons] parent pom doesn't follow asf rules (remote resource plugin
> is deactivated where it is correct in apache pom for instance)
>
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> 2014-12-13 18:56 GMT+01:00 sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
>> On 13 December 2014 at 17:51, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> At least some skip should be removed since it breaks apache parent behavior.
>>
>> No idea what you mean here - if you think there is a bug, file a JIRA issue.
>>
>>> Le 13 déc. 2014 18:42, "sebb" <sebbaz@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On 13 December 2014 at 12:26, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>> > Hi!
>>>> >
>>>> > I've never seen any other ASF project where it is such a torture to
>>>> release.
>>>> > This is partly because the quality level is really high, but a big part
>>>> of it is that we don't have a mature parent pom.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but I don't think that is at all relevant.
>>>> Releasing is tedious because Maven does not really support non-Maven
>>>> release directories (i.e. www.apache.org/dist/commons) so work-rounds
>>>> are needed.
>>>> This is true whatever the parent pom is used.
>>>>
>>>> It's partly also that Maven does some things well, but when
>>>> adjustments are needed, it can be all but impossible to work out how
>>>> to coax it to do what's needed.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I have no clue why we don't just use the common apache parent pom. I've
>>>> NEVER experienced such issues like missing NOTICE and LICENSE with it. It's
>>>> really much more solid than our own one.
>>>>
>>>> Until very recently the ASF parent pom was broken, and with no sign of
>>>> any fixes.
>>>> For example, it did not allow override of the compiler plugin version,
>>>> and there were a few other issues with it.
>>>>
>>>> There are stil issues with LICENSE and NOTICE, because the
>>>> automatically created ones are not always correct.
>>>> I'm not sure it creates the appropriate source and javadoc jars either.
>>>>
>>>> And it does not create decent manifests.
>>>>
>>>> The Commons Pom includes a lot of common setup that would otherwise
>>>> have to be added to each component's parent pom.
>>>> That is not an efficient way of proceeding.
>>>>
>>>> There are various other additional optional features in the Commons
>>>> pom which are useful for testing.
>>>>
>>>> I think the CP pom works fine for single module projects.
>>>> I'm not sure about multimodule projects, but is the ASF pom any better?
>>>>
>>>> Rather than raise unsubstantiated criticisms of the CP pom, file bugs
>>>> for any problems and/or try fixing them.
>>>>
>>>> > LieGrue,
>>>> > strub
>>>> >
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