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From Roger Whitcomb <Roger.Whitc...@actian.com>
Subject RE: [VOTE][RRESULT][RC1] Release Commons Math 3.6.1
Date Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:30:10 GMT
You're right, of course.  "Indemnification" is not the right term.  And my point was not necessary,
since you were not thinking of fewer votes, but relaxed requirements for the voters.

My apologies.
~Roger Whitcomb

-----Original Message-----
From: Gilles [mailto:gilles@harfang.homelinux.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:48 AM
To: dev@commons.apache.org
Subject: RE: [VOTE][RRESULT][RC1] Release Commons Math 3.6.1

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:51:21 +0000, Roger Whitcomb wrote:
> I believe the necessity of having 3 PMC votes for a release is an 
> Apache-wide requirement, having to do with project oversight, and 
> legal indemnification.

Indemnification???
With "8. Limitation of Liability"?

> See http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html for the formal voting 
> rules for the ASF.
>
> I don't see anywhere in this page where there is any provision for 
> "relaxing" these requirements for any reason.

I wrote "could", not "can".
And I did not mean less than 3 votes; I meant less stringent requirements upon the voters
(e.g. looking at the the "diff").

Gilles

> ~Roger Whitcomb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gilles [mailto:gilles@harfang.homelinux.org]
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:43 AM
> To: dev@commons.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE][RRESULT][RC1] Release Commons Math 3.6.1
>
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:29:48 -0400, Evan Ward wrote:
>> On 03/21/2016 09:18 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
>>> Le 21/03/2016 13:44, Evan Ward a écrit :
>>>> The vote passes with three votes in favor and none against.
>>> Well, in fact I am not sure it passes yet ...
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there are only 2 PMC members who voted: Oliver and 
>>> myself.
>>
>> Oh, I didn't realize there had to be 3 PMC members voting. I had 
>> already released the maven artifacts by the time I receive your 
>> message. I'll wait to publish the site until we have a vote from a 
>> third PMC member.
>> Hopefully it is a +1 so I don't have to figure out how to un-release 
>> something. I'll update the release.howto.txt document to include a 
>> note that a vote must have 3 PMC +1's to pass.
>
> I'll vote
>
> +1
>
> although I do not have the time to make all the "legal" steps.
> It's a leap of faith because I trust that you (and Luc) take extreme 
> care in what you do.
>
> This kind of trust is sorely missing in other circumstances.
>
> Also, concretely, I think that the requirements could be relaxed for a 
> bug-fix release.
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
>> Best Regards,
>> Evan
>>
>>>
>>> Could a third PMC member look at it?
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Luc
>>>
>>>> Thanks for taking time to review.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Evan
>>>>
>>>> On 03/19/2016 11:06 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>> If you add the -Xdoclint:none command line argument, that will 
>>>>> ignore the javadoc errors. I love how the JDK itself doesn't 
>>>>> compile without that option.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 March 2016 at 15:38, Oliver Heger 
>>>>> <oliver.heger@oliver-heger.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Build worked fine with Java 1.6 on Windows 10. Artifacts and site

>>>>>> look good. I could not build the site with Java 8 because of 
>>>>>> Javadoc errors, but this is not blocking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 17.03.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Evan Ward:
>>>>>>> This is a [VOTE] for releasing Apache Commons Math 3.6.1 from

>>>>>>> release candidate 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tag name:
>>>>>>>   MATH_3_6_1_RC1 (signature can be checked from git using 'git

>>>>>>> tag -v')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tag URL:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-math.git;a=tag;
>>>>>> h=e40b144832c0e138b185c92326588a087e00909c
>>>>>>> Commit ID the tag points at:
>>>>>>>   16abfe5de688cc52fb0396e0609cb33044b15653
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Site:
>>>>>>>   http://home.apache.org/~evanward/commons-math-3.6.1-RC1-site
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Distribution files:
>>>>>>>   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/math/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Distribution files hashes (SHA1):
>>>>>>>   4d4bb6741f9b5d095bcab24f5232a871ba579df0
>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-bin.tar.gz
>>>>>>>   e088b160c19af7ca2596d91430b8a71aaa5ea5da
>>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-bin.zip
>>>>>>>   77ffe792e4bf0d4bcd7b4e2a8ce3b07df40a92b9
>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-src.tar.gz
>>>>>>>   cadad1cbb7757b2616a96b20d357e3a6acb1b4c9
>>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-src.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KEYS file to check signatures:
>>>>>>>   http://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maven artifacts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommo
>>>>>> ns-1142/org/apache/commons/commons-math3/3.6.1/
>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Release it.
>>>>>>> [ ] +0 Go ahead; I don't care.
>>>>>>> [ ] -0 There are a few minor glitches: ...
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 No, do not release it because ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This vote will close in 72 hours, at 2016-03-20T12:00:00Z (this

>>>>>>> is UTC time).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>


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