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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject Re: [ALL] The Commons Math issue
Date Fri, 14 Apr 2017 15:54:24 GMT

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Gilles <> wrote:
>> Regarding the decision to keep CM here at commons: As far as I
>> remember (I’m sure Gilles has the likes to the archives ;-)) the PMC
>> was pretty ambivalent and let it to the CM developers. That group
>> decided it would be better to stay at commons.
> This needs correction:
> 1. All the CM regular developers voted to create a TLP (and we
>    were even already discussing a name).
> 2. During that discussion, I asked whether some of the roadblocks
>    (mainly overly conservativeness) would be lifted.
>    Then, rather than constructively lay out on how we can continue
>    working for the benefit of everyone,[1] the initiative was
>    "abandoned" following Phil Steitz's sudden decision to drop
>    its PMC-chair candidacy for the new project.

This is past history. We don’t need to talk about it any more. Doing so is just a waste
of time.

>> Later some of those
>> people decided it would be better to move away from Apache all
>> together.
>> That’s okay for me.
> It should have posed question to the PMC: Why do people decide
> to leave?  Isn't there anything to do about it?

Huh? The impression I was given was that the people who left were tired of playing in the
same sandbox with the people they didn’t invite into their new sandbox. There is nothing
the PMC can realistically do about that once the decision is made. Again,there is very little
to be gained by discussing this now.

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