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From Andrew McMurry <andrew.mcmu...@invitae.com>
Subject Re: cTAKES user interface
Date Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:57:23 GMT

EXCELLENT suggestion. 
Last time I checked CTAKES was way out of date. 

Makes sense that one of us should play "red rover" and keep cTakes up to date. 
I just this moment sent a message to iDASH to start the update conversation. 


On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:04 AM, "Masanz, James J." <Masanz.James@mayo.edu> wrote:

> Andy,
> You might want to talk with the folks at iDASH.
> They have an image with a number of NLP tools installed, but it doesn't have the latest
version of cTAKES.
> http://idash.ucsd.edu/nlp/natural-language-processing-nlp-ecosystem
> Perhaps they would be open to your help with upgrading to a later version of cTAKES.
> -- James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev-return-2151-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org [mailto:dev-return-2151-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org]
On Behalf Of andy mcmurry
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:34 PM
> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> Subject: Re: cTAKES user interface
> Ricard:
> Groovy idea.
> Virtual Machine could benefit from that as well.
> *## IMHO: These are parallel tasks that I think are higher priority than
> new features.
> *It isn't as glamorous as playing Jeopardy, but deploy issues are keeping
> users out -- if I were to guess A LOT of the potential user base looks at
> ctakes and says "wow that amazing! "
> then they look at how complex it will be to do their simple "Hello Ctakes"
> example and the 15 minutes of attention -- we are one walk to the soda
> machine away from being either embraced or forgotten. It really is that
> basic -- if it takes to long to get started, chances are new users -- wont.
> The documentation is nicely done and this is absolutely no criticism of
> that.
> In fact, I apologize for being so out of touch (was thesis writing ).
> It just feels like 1992 all over again and your compiling linux just to
> find out you didn't tweak your VGA card settings right, and now your stuck.
> But you still think linux rocks.
> 2013 is here and linux now runs out of the box.
> The OS itself has changed less in features and more in ease of use.
> I know its not Jeopardy but we gotta do it.
> *## I'm going to make a VM (Ubuntu 13.10) for myself and let everyone kick
> it around. **I strongly encourage the Groovy deploy targets as Richard
> suggested. *
> This really isn't an either | OR.
> We need to be able to have easier turn around on cTakes so we can get back
> to Jeopardy.
> *## Who agrees, and are there any counter proposals? *
> AndyMC
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Richard Eckart de Castilho
> <rec@apache.org>wrote:
>> Maven allows to do marvelous things on the CLI, provided you throw in an
>> additional component: Groovy.
>> We did some amazing self-contained Groovy scripts with uimaFIT and DKPro
>> Core which you might find interesting
>>  http://code.google.com/p/dkpro-core-asl/wiki/DKProGroovyCookbook
>> -- Richard
>> On 29.10.2013, at 23:09, "Miller, Timothy" <
>> Timothy.Miller@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>> I think this is also an area where Maven integration was a small step
>> backwards (I greatly appreciate the steps forward it allowed). I used to
>> run stuff from the command line and in scripts more often but it's slightly
>> less straightforward setting up the classpath with maven -- before you
>> could put a simple java -cp lib/*.jar <class name> in a script, now I'm not
>> sure how to go about it using maven. I'm sure there's a way, but I am
>> afraid of falling down the maven rabbit hole.
>>> Tim
>>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
>>>> +1
>>>> Pan, the short answer is yes- it can be done in CLI.
>>>> The problem is that most of us who are already familiar with the nitty
>> gritty are probably doing this with some sort of custom scripts or solution.
>>>> Cc' the dev group to get a fresh perspective; not sure what the easiest
>> would be-- run the CPE via command line with default input/output
>> directories or running a Driver Main Class as part of examples.
>>>> --Pei

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