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From Emmanuel Lecharny <>
Subject Re: [server.xml] Discussion
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:53:25 GMT
Graham Leggett wrote:
> Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>> I can't agree more :/ I already mentionned the fact that using spring 
>> + xbeans was most certainly a bad decision (IMHO), leading to more 
>> problems than solutions...
>> But this might be just me :)
> I completely agree.
> The acid test is in the error messages: if a user gets a message that 
> makes no sense to an end user, then the software is fundamentally 
> broken. Spring moves lots of stuff that would otherwise be caught by 
> your compiler (using annotations and other useful things) into the 
> runtime, and this means end users hit the bugs, not the developers.
<personal opinion>
I will go a bit forward (and it's not totally related to ADS) : IMHO, 
Spring itself is just not the way to go when you want to offer a 
solution which is not embeddable only. It does not make sense.
I think that the DI/IOC approach has been stretched far too much. From a 
cool techno, very usefull when you want to develop a pluggable system, 
that's just fine. Otherwise, it's just following the buzz, and abusing 
the idea badly.
</personal opinion>

 From the ADS pov, I don't think we will have time to change anything, 
unless we spend a serious amount of time defining a better solution in 
the next few months. This can be discussed too...

cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel L├ęcharny

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