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From Selcuk AYA <>
Subject Re: We may need to add a hasChildren() method in the Partition interface
Date Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:03:13 GMT
with a little digression, here are some general ideas on the schema changes:

I think we should handle schema changes in a way something like this:
1)quiesce all ldap operations on all partitions.
2)change schema, and maybe update registries.
3) Check for inconsistency but if anything goes wrong after updating
registries, reinit the registries from on disk schema partition.
4)let all operations go ahead.


*Almost every code has read dependency on the schema registries, so
when a thread changes the schema and the registries, every operation
will be affected by the change. So I do not think letting any other
operation to be concurrent with schema change makes sense.

*At step 3 above, schema entry having a child is only one case of
failure. Currently we also seem to clone the registries before doing
any change to them. Ignoring all the current problems because of lack
of isolation of schema change, lets say we do the following:
a)check if hasChildren is false
b) clone registries, update them and check for inconsistency
c) if everything is OK, update registries
d) Update data on disk.

If something went wrong during step d and operation failed, cloning
the registries and doing the update on the cloned registries wouldnt
save us and reinit of registries would be necessary.

P.S. With txns, hasChildren is not necessary because it is implemented
above the partitions using the indices   exposed by partitions.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot <> wrote:
> On 2 déc. 2011, at 10:28, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
>> On 12/2/11 10:14 AM, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot wrote:
>>> +1
>>> Definitely a good utility method to have.
>>> But I feel that the verification that the entry is a leaf and does not have any
children, in the case of a delete operation, should be done by a higher level interceptor
(or class).
>>> I'm not sure this scenario should be verified on each partition type but that
a higher class (DirectoryService maybe) should take the responsibility to ask the underlying
partition if the entry is a leaf and then ask it to delete the entry.
>> This is what was done before, but using a search request, which was costly. If we
have a hasChildren(Dn) on the Interceptor interface too, then it would be possible.
> Indeed, and depending on the partition implementation, we might not even have to run
a one level search to find the children (me may have some kind of index that we could use
on some sort of partitions).
> Regards,
> Pierre-Arnaud
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Cordialement,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny

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