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From "Sean Busbey (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (HADOOP-11656) Classpath isolation for downstream clients
Date Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:12:07 GMT

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Sean Busbey commented on HADOOP-11656:
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{quote}
* With YARN, the platform classpath (YARN server) is already decoupled from apps.
* With Hadoop 2.6, MapReduce framework is no longer needed to be installed on each machine
(MAPREDUCE-4421). The recommended way now is via distributed-cache. This is a big help for
rolling-upgrades too.
* Other frameworks like Apache Tez had always resorted to deployment via distributed-cache.
* Given the above, and coupled with HDFS-6200, apps are now only exposed to Hadoop client
artifacts. The servers can evolved completely independently in terms of what their dependencies
are.
{quote}

I thought we still exposed our users to framework classes, we just gave them the option of
inserting a classloader that can load their classes in preference to ours. Users are still
left by default with all of our transitive dependencies present.

Sounds like I need to make some tests.

> Classpath isolation for downstream clients
> ------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-11656
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-11656
>             Project: Hadoop Common
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: Sean Busbey
>            Assignee: Sean Busbey
>              Labels: classloading, classpath, dependencies
>
> Currently, Hadoop exposes downstream clients to a variety of third party libraries. As
our code base grows and matures we increase the set of libraries we rely on. At the same time,
as our user base grows we increase the likelihood that some downstream project will run into
a conflict while attempting to use a different version of some library we depend on. This
has already happened with i.e. Guava several times for HBase, Accumulo, and Spark (and I'm
sure others).
> While YARN-286 and MAPREDUCE-1700 provided an initial effort, they default to off and
they don't do anything to help dependency conflicts on the driver side or for folks talking
to HDFS directly. This should serve as an umbrella for changes needed to do things thoroughly
on the next major version.
> We should ensure that downstream clients
> 1) can depend on a client artifact for each of HDFS, YARN, and MapReduce that doesn't
pull in any third party dependencies
> 2) only see our public API classes (or as close to this as feasible) when executing user
provided code, whether client side in a launcher/driver or on the cluster in a container or
within MR.
> This provides us with a double benefit: users get less grief when they want to run substantially
ahead or behind the versions we need and the project is freer to change our own dependency
versions because they'll no longer be in our compatibility promises.
> Project specific task jiras to follow after I get some justifying use cases written in
the comments.



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