From yarn-dev-return-34352-apmail-hadoop-yarn-dev-archive=hadoop.apache.org@hadoop.apache.org Fri Nov 22 12:30:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-yarn-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-yarn-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D70C410B6A for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20296 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2019 12:30:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-yarn-dev-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 20051 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2019 12:30:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yarn-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list yarn-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 19870 invoked by uid 99); 22 Nov 2019 12:30:20 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:30:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id DCAF2C0C26 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:30:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.208 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.208 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.2, MISSING_HEADERS=1.207, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cloudera.com Received: from mx1-he-de.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VWITJfm-tNRf for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2c; helo=mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com; envelope-from=stevel@cloudera.com; receiver= Received: from mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2c]) by mx1-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 19B427DD9E for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com with SMTP id g18so2769399qvp.8 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 04:30:17 -0800 (PST) X-ASF-DKIM-Sig: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cloudera.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=gUqPtflYoFm3xTi4D+CPyboCwoATYpMijkmKQ2R1ODw=; b=Kmmtnx8EK76/mRRWQI1jUpSBNOmob5+WrJL0Vy45d7ys2Rh14gZK+459OIvDbzgeLX hiYw/TgucQKncqZrKeyE5CM1dxtXaFJfpYj4poLTAu1JoLcW1GaKaKbeJd9Qm0AZZCj6 7hUMT/x7CeU+bRRRJesE7btWOooRb1Ews/HW2tdNBX3TkTC+3SpKJw37AWS6ULfrrPLW p5LSBwZ0Cix9428UMQt8Fed8csaJWaZL2newNhaENN0i2nci6A8r/S/4S7qCzfNZ9n1P n13GwaiqFK+16/F5H7nVXAtaKwR8WYWcR368yUJiM4zXzen4eXHvooBRCXR3gYPgR9Dp Hx5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=gUqPtflYoFm3xTi4D+CPyboCwoATYpMijkmKQ2R1ODw=; b=ijeSINXkAJKyJAQInhP7b+WZdH1Hmf6LSSre/gcUyHeYzVCTOpfIbEdceqCYEjpJoT bs0IVw9y4fhYAE2aPdRTGlc5a6AmxbsTr7nnX+18xkxFnU4Zont1XDzOg9DBLAC6uA6P ak/Kw+OonFBXi/FLJhr0DicNm05oDrgmUQa5Db0k8PQsNK2YGBq/4J3RYcfnc6oKrYiJ nMwiPoHdTmlDcfOrZvfQ5CLOrPwXsZLI66JzBwMw8D2F0UtjpIOutSKOoypWatQ7SBKO XstBGX7ZN85fY5J75bbVoxiSHRLG+6LShI90oO3YwWfB2VpH7GNfjhEztdixTycLnsoS 7Oyg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVMisiSM4uNd6TsGlMiUWOf2GEuHKnJhmTw0FuifKKMh43IDVV/ hPHe+655iYu4FWGtsgiUFTwjOdfUGNAvMBZO24aTeQXL1Mk= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:4cc4:: with SMTP id i4mt7266421qvz.137.1574425809881; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 04:30:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <84128534.1613859.1573846857451@mail.yahoo.com> <2096520260.3469928.1574196551087@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: From: Steve Loughran Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:29:33 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Making 2.10 the last minor 2.x release Cc: Hadoop Common , Hdfs-dev , yarn-dev , mapreduce-dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000209a090597ee9358" --000000000000209a090597ee9358 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:49 PM Jonathan Hung wrote: > Thanks for the detailed thoughts, everyone. > > Eric (Badger), my understanding is the same as yours re. minor vs patch > releases. As for putting features into minor/patch releases, if we keep the > convention of putting new features only into minor releases, my assumption > is still that it's unlikely people will want to get them into branch-2 > (based on the 2.10.0 release process). For the java 11 issue, we haven't > even really removed support for java 7 in branch-2 (much less java 8), so I > feel moving to java 11 would go along with a move to branch 3. And as you > mentioned, if people really want to use java 11 on branch-2, we can always > revive branch-2. But for now I think the convenience of not needing to port > to both branch-2 and branch-2.10 (and below) outweighs the cost of > potentially needing to revive branch-2. > I don't think we should evern support java 11 in branch-2. "If you want to use a recent version of java - use a recent version of hadoop" I've not been backporting my stuff for a long, long time, and my general stance with branch-2 bug reports on bits of the code that I work on is "what does it do on hadoop 3.2?" --000000000000209a090597ee9358--