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From Lei Chang <chang.lei...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Oushu and Trademark use
Date Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:57:14 GMT
@Jim, Thanks for pointing this out. +trademarks@ for help.

If there is any misuse of the trademark, we will change it soon.

Cheers
Lei



On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Jim Apple <jbapple@apache.org> wrote:

> > That is an interesting question actually. This seems to be a customer
> quote.
> > Which means that even if the customer was confused its not like you can
> > change it without doing a round-trip with said customer.
>
> I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure to what extent Apache rules about
> trademarks reflect actual laws, but I think generally that there are some
> prohibited advertising statements that companies cannot make by quoting a
> customer who said that forbidden phrase.
>
> So, if I sell iceberg lettuce, which does not cure the common cold, I
> don't think I can say that directly in my ads or quote someone who said
> that in my ads.
>
> > What's the issue with this? I guess a more specific statement would be:
> >    "Oushu' is a database and AI company founded by the team who
> > founded Apache HAWQ."
> > (sans annoying founded...founded). Is this the kind of clarification
> you're
> > looking for?
>
> I am subscribed to board@, but I can't access the archives. A similar
> situation came up about a TLP and a company associated with it. If you were
> subscribed, search you mail for the phrase "So perhaps it not just
> marketing that need some education" on or around March 13, 2018.
>
> Maybe trademarks@ would better be able to say.
>



On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Jim Apple <jbapple@apache.org> wrote:
> > I don't think the following fit with Apache guideline about TM use:
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
> >
> > http://www.oushu.io/
> >
> > "Oushu database, the Apache HAWQ enterprise version, helps us building
> the most advanced data platform"
>
> That is an interesting question actually. This seems to be a customer
> quote.
> Which means that even if the customer was confused its not like you can
> change it without doing a round-trip with said customer.
>
> Something to definitely clarify, tho -- thanks for pointing it out!
>
> > http://oushu.io/about-us.html
> >
> > "'Oushu' is a database and AI company founded by the team who created
> Apache HAWQ."
>
> What's the issue with this? I guess a more specific statement would be:
>    "Oushu' is a database and AI company founded by the team who
> founded Apache HAWQ."
> (sans annoying founded...founded). Is this the kind of clarification you're
> looking for?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>

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