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From Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com>
Subject [DISCUSS] correcting abusive behavior on mailing lists was (Re: [DISCUSS] Multi-Cluster HBase Client)
Date Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:08:45 GMT
(I took the liberty of moving us off of Ted's feature discussion thread)

A three month ban sounds better than a permanent ban. But it still seems
likely to just result in the ban-ee walking away from teh community or

Would we consider enforcing moderation on posts for the three month period
instead of an outright ban?

It's more work for whomever has moderator rights on the mailing list, but
it provides a better feedback cycle for improved behavior. Presuming that I
don't already have such access as a PMC member, I'd be willing to volunteer
to help take on part of the burden.


On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org> wrote:

> It was suggested privately that we try a temporary ban first, to be clear
> that current behavior and communication is unacceptable and won't be
> tolerated further, yet allow for the possibility of a return to the
> community should the message be received. So let me amend my proposal - a
> three month temporary ban.
> Also, the reason I am asking for public feedback before calling for a vote
> is this would be the first time in the history of the project we would take
> this very unfortunate step. It pains me personally but enough is enough, in
> my opinion. However, if you are not comfortable with that then please speak
> up and I won't ask the PMC to vote on this.
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > I've had enough and would like to ask the user and dev communities if
> they
> > would mind if we vote on a permanent ban of Michael Segal - any and all
> > email accounts he may choose to set up - from all HBase mailing lists.
> The
> > basic lack of courtesy and constant naysaying is corrosive. Nobody trying
> > to volunteer their time here deserves his continuing abuse.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Michael Segel <
> michael_segel@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sean,
> >>
> >> You’re a developer, or just some higher level primate that pounds code?
> >>
> >> I don’t want to embarrass you, but what do they teach in engineering
> >> schools these days?
> >>
> >>
> --
> Best regards,
>    - Andy
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)


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