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From "Boyle Owen" <Owen.Bo...@swx.com>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] Options Indexes: how to force listing of directories with access control settings?
Date Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:03:42 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nick.minutello@uk.bnpparibas.com
> 
> >> I guess you're using apache 2?
> Actually, its 1.3...

Eh?

I just went back to your original post and replicated your config. I cannot reproduce your
problem with apache 1.3.33.

If I password-protect a sub-directory using your exact .htaccess file directives, the directory
is listed but if I click on it, I am prompted for a password.

If I put "Deny from all" in the <Directory> container, the directory is listed but if
I click on it, I get a "403 Forbidden".

In no case is the directory *not* listed. This is exactly the behaviour I would expect in
1.3. Therefore your problem must have a different cause.

Looking back at your original post, I'd pose a few questions:

- the parent directory for the index is "/data/scm/buildarchive/archives". This doesn't sound
like it is directly under the doc-root. Is it? Or is it accessed via an Alias or symlink or
something?
- do you have any directory container for the sub-dirs (eg, /data/scm/buildarchive/archives/ARCH1)
that could conflict with the .htaccess fie there?
- do you have a .htaccess file in the parent dir that could conflict with the container in
the config?
- are there any less-specific directory containers or .htaccess files (ie, above the parent
dir) which contain directives that the parent dir might inherit?

Finally, try a simple experiment:

- Directly under the docroot, make a directory "banana". This is the parent dir.
- in banana, make two sub-dirs: kiwi and mango. Create a couple of files in each.
- in the config, do:

     <Directory /path/to/docroot/banana>
         Options Indexes
         AllowOverride AuthConfig
     </Directory>

Now if you go to http://server/banana/ you should see a listing of kiwi and mango and clicking
on them should list the contents.

- in kiwi, copy in your .htaccess from /data/scm/buildarchive/archives/ARCH1
- now go back to http://server/banana/, do you see kiwi listed? (you should)
- if you click on kiwi, are you prompted for a password? (you should be)

If not, then a really silly question: Are you really sure you're running apache 1.3? (go to
the bin dir and do ./httpd -v to check!)

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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> 
> >> This sounds a lot like what happens when you have files in 
> the directory
> which are subject to a Deny directive
> I am using a Require rather than Deny... but its the same issue....
> 
> >> - you can see them but can't access them in apache 1.3 but 
> you can't see
> them at all in apache 2.
> Hmm, I am running 1.3...
> 
> >> you can see them but can't access them
> You describe it well - thats exactly the behaviour I want.
> I want people to be able to see the protected files/dirs, but 
> get prompted
> for a password in order access them... (subject to authorisation...)
> 
> >> there is a discussion at:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users&m=107632025
> 906691&w=2
> If I understood that thread correctly, its more about the 
> actual filesystem
> permissions (chmod), rather than Require/Deny directives in Apache....
> 
> -Nick
> 
> >> Nice try, but mod_autoindex works by try to access the 
> file using the
> configured ruleset so it'll still hit the block...
> Yup...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Extranet
> Owen.Boyle@swx.com - 20/04/2005 16:20
> 
> 
> Please respond to users@httpd.apache.org
> 
> 
> 
> To:    users
> 
> cc:
> 
> 
> Subject:    RE: [users@httpd] Options Indexes: how to force listing of
>        directories with access control settings?
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Craig Dunigan [mailto:cdunigan@doit.wisc.edu]
> > Sent: Mittwoch, 20. April 2005 16:31
> > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Options Indexes: how to force listing of
> > directories with access control settings?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 nick.minutello@uk.bnpparibas.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am using .htaccess to control access to a directory.
> > > However, this hides the directory from the index listing of
> > its parent dir
> > > (if the user isnt logged in).
> > >
> > > Is there a trick to Options, IndexOptions or AuthXXX to list all
> > > directories, regardless of their access control, when a
> > user isnt logged
> > > in?
> 
> I guess you're using apache 2? This sounds a lot like what 
> happens when you
> have files in the directory which are subject to a Deny 
> directive - you can
> see them but can't access them in apache 1.3 but you can't 
> see them at all
> in apache 2.
> 
> You can have a big-end/little-end debate about which is 
> better, but there
> is a discussion at:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users&m=107632025
> 906691&w=2
> 
> Rgds,
> Owen Boyle
> Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored.
> 
> > >
> > >
> > Bit of a guess, here, but why not try putting all of the 
> Auth stuff in
> > .htaccess inside a Files block, with a match of '*'?
> 
> Nice try, but mod_autoindex works by try to access the file using the
> configured ruleset so it'll still hit the block...
> 
> 
> >
> >
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