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From John Iliffe <>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] Unstable PHP under Apache
Date Mon, 01 May 2017 15:24:17 GMT
Thanks for the response Nick.

I originally suspected PHP too but using mod_php most of this works.  (It 
all does on the old server on Apache-2.4.10 using mod_php)  I'm using 
mod_fcgid on Apache so that is why I posted here.  I already tried the 
Apache download of PHP-FPM about a month back with mostly similar errors, 
even with a considerable amount of help by Daniel; so I gave up and went to 
what looked like it should be the easier path (mod_fcgid).  As it turned 
out, it wasn't.

The odd install locations are because I don't want to use the Fedora 
repositories to get the Apache and PHP and other software.  I've been hit 
before by a non-trivial change when the software gets updated and something 
breaks.  So now I maintain my own and I always have a back-out position.  

The locations for the PHP scripts are because there are several named 
virtual hosts on Apache and each one has its own subdirectory under /httpd.  
For example, the test server, and the hacker trap on the first named host is with /httpd/iliffe  as the document root.  Both scripts and static 
pages related to the virtual server are stored in the same place.

The really odd thing is that if the PHP ini file is incorrect (syntax error 
in one line) then everything works as it should.  The problem that arises 
is that every page served has a line right in the middle of the page that 
says something like "syntax error in ini file on line #432"  or similar.  
Certainly not acceptable for a production server!  Note that this occurs on 
EVERY page served, indicating that a new PHP child process must have been 
started on every script which is not what I would expect from the docs on 
mod_fcgid.  (which should have started a pool I would have thought).

So, yes, you are correct, I may be barking up the wrong tree.  The problem 
is, I'm lost in the forest!


On Monday 01 May 2017 01:54:26 Nick Kew wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-04-30 at 14:56 -0400, John Iliffe wrote:
> I find your post confusing, so I may be barking up the
> wrong tree.  But I see:
> > Now Apache has started php-cgi, the parent process is one of the
> > workers The response to the browser is "No input file specified"
> > 
> > There are no errors shown in the Apache error log, nor in the php.log,
> > nor in the php-fpm.log.
> It looks as if you're looking in the wrong place.
> It's all working fine as far as Apache is concerned:
> PHP has accepted a request and produced a response.
> Your problem lies in something PHP is doing.
> Questions to consider:
> Why the idiosyncratic install locations of httpd and php
> in your filesystem?
> What's the HTTP response?

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