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From "Greg Rundlett (freephile)" <>
Subject [users@httpd] Re: apachectl -k graceful
Date Thu, 03 May 2018 13:32:26 GMT
I've read the manual and believe I'm
doing things "the right way". I know I've seen anecdotes and forum
discussions where people complain of long restarts, but I'm confident that
those are the result of some particular environment issue (like
long-running child processes) or misconfiguration. I've also heard
anecdotes that sometimes during a deployment of new MediaWiki versions
(thousands of php files) that you might see weird bugs because a specific
user request could get a "mixed" set of files (aka some from Vx and some
from Vy). I assume the best way to handle roll-outs is to take a server out
of rotation from the loadbalancer; update it; and then add it back in. But
what about deployments where there is only one server? Short of stopping
the server, I guess the technique there would be to make all file updates
to a shadow directory, and then replace the symlink or mv the shadow
directory into the real directory.

I can look at the scoreboard in server-status during my next deploy to
check how things go. Or even better, I could install to keep an eye on things.

Still, if anyone on list can confirm their practice for rolling out changes
to php.ini + clearing opcache + pushing new code to production under Apache
and mod_php, that would be appreciated.

Greg Rundlett

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) <> wrote:

> If I do an apache2ctl -k graceful on Ubuntu (or service httpd restart in
> CentOS), using mod_php and a max_execution_time = 30 in php.ini, then is
> there any reason why the server would take more than say 1 minute to serve
> all requests with the new php.ini + Apache configuration (+ php files)?
> I know max_execution_time doesn't include system calls, so if a large file
> were being uploaded and simultaneously thumbnailed at various sizes with
> imagemagick or something, then it could take more than 30 seconds.
> I'm asking because I'm doing DevOps and I don't want to introduce delay
> into deployments (which already take 15 minutes), but I feel that if I'm
> deploying new PHP files (MediaWiki), then each client request should get a
> consistent set of files, rather than mixed content from two different
> releases which could happen if I just deploy updates without making a
> simultaneous graceful restart.
> Thanks,
> Greg
> Greg Rundlett

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